DESTROY NOAH'S ARK

[SteelCurtain]

I can't believe I have to keep reiterating my point. I'm asking what the environment was like before the "big bang". You can't just apply what happens in the known universe to the era (or what ever you want to call it) before the "big bang". If on the other hand your asserting that the environment in the known universe, is no different than the was it was like before the "big bang", then you do so without evidence. Sounds like faith to me.

You are spectacularly dense, aren't you? Are you just not able to remember what we've already talked about, what your original question was? I already said that I do not know what happened before the moment of the big bang. Or even if before the big bag even means anything. I'm okay with that until the evidence comes in. What is for sure is that there is nothing at all to suggest that anything supernatural occurred.

you do realize the God came down himself, preformed a bunch of miracles, and raised people from the dead ect. Yet even he couldn't get everyone to believe him, as a matter of fact there was one city he went to where he was unable to preform any miracles because the unbelief was so rampant. you expect me to do better?

Bare assertion. Not worth any effort. What does this have to do with anything?

Therefore if you really wanted proof, you'd be out looking for it. As it says in the previous passage God "is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."

I am open to proof. I just will not allow you to make an assertion of fact, a positive claim, and just move on as if that is enough. If you are going to take part in intelligent debate, you have to back up your own claims, not me.

Keeping with our theme of analogies, say i'm camping beside a river for instance, and I see you floating by in a boat. I happen the know the area and I know that your headed towards a waterfall. I'm obligated to warn you, but if you insist upon proof, i'm not obligated to provide it. Either take my word for it or don't, I'm not the one in danger. The smart move is to get out of the water and go see for yourself.

You really don't understand metaphors, huh? Man, you are showing your true colors all over this forum. Excellent. So this analogy has no relation whatsoever to what we're talking about. You've introduced odds and consequences. Not only do I have no reason to question someone who is warning me of danger, I have a vested interest in believing you because it's the smart thing to do. This has nothing to do with an unexplained phenomena, and the idea that one cannot evaluate evidence if one denies having knowledge.

Like I said, I keep having to reiterate my point. What part of no evidence don't you understand? You will never find evidence, so in that case you will never find anything to dispute the claim of "aliens'. Therefore you will never be able to say for certain that "aliens" weren't involved.

Did you just hijack my analogy? Did you just arbitrarily define things so that there is somehow no evidence---so that your dumb ass stance that I cannot evaluate evidence for your claim works? You are just the most idiotic person on the whole internet. Congratulations.