(March 29, 2014 at 12:30 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: You are spectacularly dense, aren't you? Are you just not able to remember what we've already talked about, what your original question was? I already said that I do not know what happened before the moment of the big bang. Or even if before the big bag even means anything. I'm okay with that until the evidence comes in. What is for sure is that there is nothing at all to suggest that anything supernatural occurred.Like I already stated, I'm fine with the answer "I don't know", but you insist upon posting irrelevant links. Also the since it can't be explained scientifically it can be defined as supernatural.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supernatural
su·per·nat·u·ral adjective \ˌsü-pər-ˈna-chə-rəl, -ˈnach-rəl\
: unable to be explained by science or the laws of nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god, etc.
(March 29, 2014 at 12:30 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Bare assertion. Not worth any effort. What does this have to do with anything?you asked for proof, my point was that if Jesus himself couldn't prove himself to be the messiah, what makes you think I could do any better. Is there evidence? yes. But what I may accept as enough evidence, you may not.
(March 29, 2014 at 12:30 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I am open to proof. I just will not allow you to make an assertion of fact, a positive claim, and just move on as if that is enough. If you are going to take part in intelligent debate, you have to back up your own claims, not me.I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I haven't started one thread on these forums. And I restrict myself to the christianity sub forum
(March 29, 2014 at 12:30 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: You really don't understand metaphors, huh? Man, you are showing your true colors all over this forum. Excellent. So this analogy has no relation whatsoever to what we're talking about. You've introduced odds and consequences. Not only do I have no reason to question someone who is warning me of danger, I have a vested interest in believing you because it's the smart thing to do. This has nothing to do with an unexplained phenomena, and the idea that one cannot evaluate evidence if one denies having knowledge.
Actually my analogy was perfect, sorry it went over your head.
(March 29, 2014 at 12:30 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Did you just hijack my analogy? Did you just arbitrarily define things so that there is somehow no evidence---so that your dumb ass stance that I cannot evaluate evidence for your claim works? You are just the most idiotic person on the whole internet. Congratulations.
Did you forget what you wrote? Here let me refresh you memory.
(March 28, 2014 at 12:32 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I sure can begin to dispute something for which there is no evidence. You are showing your profound ignorance on every level.
The discussion has always been about no evidence. But since you seem confused let's make it simple. can you say with absolute certainty that there is no God?
Yes or no?