(March 29, 2014 at 11:57 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Who has ever said that the origins of the universe are unable to be explained by science? Are you seriously stating that it is beyond the realm of science to examine the origins of the universe? What allows you to make this claim? Like I and everyone else has said, just because something hasn't been explained by science doesn't mean that it cannot be explained by science. Are you so desperate about being wrong that you have to define words and concepts differently in order to make your points? Sad, really.why do you insist on talking in circles, there is no explanation of what occurred just before the "big bang". The best theory so far is
Quote:Why is there something rather than nothing? The answer is, there had to be. If you have nothing in quantum mechanics, you'll always get something.
Let's say this is true, how do you know that the rules for quantum mechanics exist outside the universe?
Either it's explained or not, Hoping one day that it may be explained is irrelevant. also, that is not my definition.
(March 29, 2014 at 11:57 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: It is so frustrating to even discuss with people who are so intellectually dishonest. I feel like your only recourse when you match wits with someone is to be as obtuse as possible until they give up because you are not worth the time and effort, then claim victory.
If you are not the dumbest person on the planet, you'd know that I was talking about the evidence for the assertion that the crop circle was left by aliens, not that there was simply zero evidence for anything. That wouldn't make sense at all as an analogy.
apparently you still don't get it. Here is my original quote after which you responded with your analogy.
(March 28, 2014 at 7:10 am)Huggy74 Wrote: You cannot dispute something "for which there is no evidence" with "I don't know". Saying "I don't know" is admitting ignorance. How can you even begin to dispute something from a position of ignorance?
See what I said? How can you dispute something from a position of ignorance? that applies to anything. How can you dispute a math equation if you don't know math? If you happen to find evidence then you are no longer ignorant, now are you?
(March 29, 2014 at 11:57 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Nope. I cannot say with absolute certainty that anything doesn't exist. There is NO WAY TO PROVE A NEGATIVE.
Thank you! that was the whole point I was trying to make. if you can't say for certain that God doesn't exist how can you dispute ones belief?