(March 25, 2014 at 8:56 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Anyone who wants to debate the historicity of Noah's Ark is not worth the kJ of energy it takes to formulate a thought in order to tell them how stupid they are.
And then you tell them they owe you a kJ.
Much like the Iliad and the Odyssey - the Bible is a collection of religious MYTHS and Legends - made up largely by a group of illiterate cave dwellers and goat herders - and fishermen. REAL history has shown that most of these stories have NO historical basis - and are not even written as well as Aesop wrote his fables or even Mother Goose.
However - once you ACCEPT that these are simply fairy tales - there exists no reason why you would not accept that the HISTORICAL basis for these TALES - which were certainly based on tales of prior religions. They are no more "stupid" than most fictional movies and books written to this day.
So - yes - the story of Noah - and Adam and Eve - and the Christ - are no more real than Hercules or Isis and Osiris or Bugs Bunny or Mickey mouse - and Aesops fables. Some of these tales - if you look beyond obvious flaws -even present moral ideas that are worthwhile.
In fact - if YOU really thing about it - we generally place such fairy tales into the level of children's reading - and in ancient times - the average person was not as literate as a kindergarten child today - so "Stories" were used to make points that illiterate people would not otherwise understand.
Now as far as the particular story is concerned - we KNOW it did not happen - and we also know that it has an number of obvious flaws. Among them - the idea that ALL of the people except for Noah and family were bad - is alarming in many ways. Among them - the idea that god FAILED in producing a good group of humans - and of course - the fact that in those times - when the average age of death was about 25 - a large percentage of those who would have been killed would have been TOO young to have done anything for which they could have been personally responsible by death (Infants and young children)
A parent - when using the bible as an example of WHY it is myth - could obviously point that out to the children