(April 2, 2014 at 11:29 am)Severan Wrote:(March 31, 2014 at 7:07 pm)tor Wrote: Anyway I talked to a VERY serious christian long ago and he told me this.Yes.
First there was god.
He is completely omniscient(knows the future).
He made heaven, earth, lucifer and angels.
He knew lucifer would rebel.
He made hell for angels who rebel.
Hell is eternal fire torture(he didn't design it for humans though or so he's saying).
Adam eats the apple so god kicks humans out to earth.
God lets satan fuck with humans(fool them) for a while because he got some cool plan.
Jesus comes back at some point in future(he doesn't know when so they can delay it forever).
Christians who die on earth go to heaven.
Non christians who die go to hell.
Then when time is up satan and his buddies also go to hell forever and christians are staying in heaven forever.
However when I asked details about satan he said that satan hates god more then anyone else in the universe. And is suffering all the time because of hate and because he constantly fails in battle against god(god is one step ahead all the time because of omniscience + omnipotence).
So satan is constantly suffering.
Do you think it's kind of cruel to create satan knowing satan will hate and suffer for thousands of years just so god can throw him into late of fire to burn forever with non christians? Sounds kinda brutal.
I trust that if hell does exist, the brilliant scientists there would have air conditioned it by now.
I've heard this one before. That all the intelligent people going to hell would be hard at work renovating it to make it better. If you think of hell as just this place where Yahweh is absent, instead of a lake of fire and all that, then it really doesn't sound bad. Whereas heaven can sound like a horrible place from another perspective. If free will is connected to sin, does that mean we won't have free will in heaven? Not to mention we'd be worshiping someone who has done heinous things that the only way to sweep them under the rug is just to hope that the guy really is what he says he is.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html