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Why do Christians trust YHWH?
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
(April 5, 2014 at 10:00 pm)Lek Wrote: Evidently you feel that a loving God would create us all to be puppets, make us do whatever he wants and give us everything to make us happy. That doesn't sound like something most of you would approve of since we all want to have control over our own lives. We want to achieve and accomplish based on our own efforts. We control our own destinies. We can do whatever we want. God has endowed us with the ability to learn and achieve and the freedom to do as we please. Having a free will includes taking the consequences for our choices. If we murder, then we can receive the death sentence in return. It seems that all the victims were deserving of punishment because they intentionally broke God's law. If any were not guilty (this includes babies and children), they went on to a life that is immeasurably better than the one they had. This was attained by God sacrificing his own son on our behalf. We all die some way. Would you rather be run through with a sword, have your head smashed against the wall or suffer for years in constant pain from cancer or whatever? Yes, I think a loving God does have the right to punish. The real reward or punsihment is how we ultimately end up.

I'm not sure if this is directed at the OP or someone else.

(April 5, 2014 at 8:55 pm)professor Wrote: Seriously.
A grotesque caricature is created in your mind, then we are questioned as to why we adhere to the monster?
I perceive that is called a straw man.

Is this directed at the OP or someone else?

I noticed you haven't actually addressed the OP.
  • Does God tell us not to kill?
  • Does God kill?
  • Why doesn't he have to follow the no-killing rule?
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Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 5, 2014 at 7:48 pm
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 5, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 5, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 9:02 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Minimalist - April 5, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by professor - April 5, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Minimalist - April 5, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Bob Kelso - April 5, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Cinjin - April 5, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Thackerie - April 7, 2014 at 9:32 am
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 5, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by professor - April 5, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Cinjin - April 5, 2014 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Ryantology - April 6, 2014 at 1:04 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by tor - April 5, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Cinjin - April 5, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by tor - April 5, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Senshi - April 5, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by ThomM - April 5, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Lek - April 5, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 6, 2014 at 12:10 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2014 at 9:10 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 7, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Lek - April 5, 2014 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Cinjin - April 5, 2014 at 10:59 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by professor - April 6, 2014 at 9:14 am
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Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 6, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Minimalist - April 7, 2014 at 12:22 am
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 7, 2014 at 11:08 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2014 at 12:11 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 8, 2014 at 7:17 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 9, 2014 at 10:31 am
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Tonus - April 7, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Lek - April 7, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by truthBtold - April 7, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 7, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Tonus - April 7, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Lek - April 7, 2014 at 6:34 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by tor - April 7, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Godlesspanther - April 8, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Tonus - April 8, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by tor - April 7, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by The Valkyrie - April 8, 2014 at 4:59 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 9, 2014 at 12:07 am
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 9, 2014 at 7:23 am
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 9, 2014 at 9:36 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 9, 2014 at 9:42 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 9, 2014 at 10:03 am
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 9, 2014 at 11:25 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 9, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 4:01 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 10, 2014 at 7:04 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 10, 2014 at 8:36 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 9:38 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 10, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 10, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 10, 2014 at 9:33 am
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 10, 2014 at 10:55 am

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