(April 4, 2014 at 4:31 pm)tor Wrote: In my previous topic I was complaining about hearing same arguments billion times. They are spoken in a different way but are still about the same thing.
Do you think we will ever hear new arguments? Where will they come from? Or we will hear same arguments for another 10000 years?
You're assuming humans will still be around in 10,000 years, that we won't have killed ourselves off in global resource wars when the Earth becomes overpopulated, or that the Earth won't have been involved in a global-killer asteroid strike that kills off all humans, or any of the other horrible and perhaps inevitable ways in which the species could be wiped out of existence...
But you're optimistic. I like that.

(April 4, 2014 at 4:34 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Yep. And the people making the will continue to think they are original.
A new argument would by definition be original. I don't understand what you're saying.
(To be clear, I'm referring to new arguments that are actually new arguments, not arguments that are a slightly different take on an old argument, like Kalam.)
(April 4, 2014 at 4:48 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Just to be clear, I'm applying tors point to the arguments from atheist against theism as well as vice versa. It's all pretty well trod ground. .
Are you referring to strong atheists with this statement? Because weak atheists can only counter theistic arguments, like I said in the other thread; we have no way to introduce "new" arguments to the discussion until the theist introduces something new for us to refute.
If you are referring to strong atheists, than I'd say that there is the possibility of introducing new arguments "disproving" God or gods because we could always find actual evidence that there are no gods and that evidence would be used to support a new argument refuting God or gods existence. To the same effect, theists will have new arguments the second they get some evidence. But until either of these things happen, no, there will probably be no new arguments being made.
I see, Jacob(smooth), that you are now a Trainee Atheist?

Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.