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Why do Christians trust YHWH?
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
(April 7, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Lek Wrote: You guys don't get it. We do suffer here. If you look around it's mostly all caused by human beings inflicting it on each other. God has done things that made people experience pain, as they were living in this world of suffering. If Job is with God now in eternal bliss, do you think that he cares about how much he suffered during his time on earth? The suffering God inflicted on us he also inflicted on his son. The people he killed were killed quickly, but his son died a slow and agonizing death for us so that we wouldn't have to suffer after our lives here. That's how he showed his love for us. He gave us the choice to be with him or not and, for those who want to be with him he gave a pathway. For those who don't want to be with him, he allows a future without him. He allows us to make our own choices and doesn't force us to follow him. We don't know what hell is except that it is without God's influence and that it's not a great place. The reason that hell is a terrible place is the absence of God. How can you say that God is not loving?

Do you think him actually doing it to his child actually makes it better? We don't know anything about Yahweh, heaven, hell, souls, or anything because we can't even prove they exist. Some people suffer more than others. I don't know anything about "eternal bliss" in heaven, or if I'll even be me in heaven. If I gave myself to Jesus, how much of me would he have to change in order for me to continually worship the individual portrayed in the bible? My estimate would be a lot.

You get your ideas about Yahweh/Jesus, heaven, and hell from followers of the bible, so it's obvious that this is biased. At least this world is something we know, and people tend to suffer more or less than others, regardless of who they worship if any.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 5, 2014 at 7:48 pm
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 5, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 5, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 9:02 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Minimalist - April 5, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 8:43 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by professor - April 5, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Minimalist - April 5, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Bob Kelso - April 5, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Cinjin - April 5, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Thackerie - April 7, 2014 at 9:32 am
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 5, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by professor - April 5, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Cinjin - April 5, 2014 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Ryantology - April 6, 2014 at 1:04 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by tor - April 5, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Cinjin - April 5, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by tor - April 5, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Senshi - April 5, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by ThomM - April 5, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Lek - April 5, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 6, 2014 at 12:10 am
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 7, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Lek - April 5, 2014 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Cinjin - April 5, 2014 at 10:59 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 5, 2014 at 10:47 pm
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Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 6, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Minimalist - April 7, 2014 at 12:22 am
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 7, 2014 at 11:08 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2014 at 12:11 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 7, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 7, 2014 at 8:20 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 8, 2014 at 3:31 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Simon Moon - April 8, 2014 at 6:53 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 8, 2014 at 7:17 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2014 at 1:29 am
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 9, 2014 at 10:31 am
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 10, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Tonus - April 7, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Lek - April 7, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by truthBtold - April 7, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 7, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Tonus - April 7, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Lek - April 7, 2014 at 6:34 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by tor - April 7, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Godlesspanther - April 8, 2014 at 12:49 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by tor - April 7, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by The Valkyrie - April 8, 2014 at 4:59 pm
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 9, 2014 at 9:42 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 9, 2014 at 10:03 am
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 9, 2014 at 11:25 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Chad32 - April 9, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 4:01 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 10, 2014 at 7:04 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 10, 2014 at 8:36 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 9:38 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 10, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Esquilax - April 10, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by RobbyPants - April 10, 2014 at 9:33 am
Why do Christians trust YHWH? - by Rampant.A.I. - April 10, 2014 at 10:55 am

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