The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave

[Revelation777]

Then if you aren't an atheist, what do you believe in?

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Are you saying Christians are valueless?

If Christians were on the whole valueless, then they would have on the whole also been harmless. That is clearly not the case. On the whole, Christians seem to me to have been mightily harmful, the are of negative value, to humanity's endeavor to prolong its own survive by building up and exploiting understanding of how the universe of which it is a part really works.

So no, Christians are not valueless, meaning harmless. They are much worse. They are of negative value and highly harmful.


How many hospitals, charitable organizations, homeless shelters, etc. based on the mission of Christ? How many by atheists?

Hitler himself claimed to be a Christian, was he really? Jesus predicted many would claim to know Him but would say to them, "I never knew you..."

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[quote='Minimalist' pid='645741' dateline='1396835819']

Catches on quick, doesn't he?

I wouldn't say that Christians are valueless. I've known many decent Christians.

I will say that CHristianity, generally, is valueless.

Christ see great value in His followers.