(April 15, 2010 at 8:43 am)Tiberius Wrote:(April 14, 2010 at 11:42 am)chatpilot Wrote: Here is another thing.............You know more about the Bible than I, but I thought Revelation was talking about the future?
Revelation 12:7-9
7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Now what kind of a freaking bone headed move was that? God had the opportunity to destroy Satan once and for all, but instead he chooses to cast him down to us (Earth). Gods great plan is flawed in so many ways as to classify him as stupid and inept.
If you read Revelations properly you see that it is not a battle between good and evil as usually
portrayed in movies etc, but god inflicting evil on the world(really loving behaviour there)
@ Godschild, what freewill?
According to your lot, the minute we exercise our "freewill" god condemns us to hell for eternity.
Where is the choice in that?
And on the subject of freewill, christians constantly maintain that evil is a consequence of us being
allowed to execise our freewill.
If so, when an act of evil is committed what about the freewill of the victim?
Where do their choices come in to it?
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.