The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave

[Ravenshire]

Are you fucking kidding me?!? I've been hearing this shit for 45 fucking years and it's always "just around the corner." Worse, you christers have been spewing this shit for a couple thousand years and "his return" has always been imminent.

Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."

Two fucking THOUSAND years later and their prom date still hasn't shown up. Guess what. The holy zombie ain't gonna make it back. Hell, he was never here in the first place. If you want to believe he was, fine. If you want me to believe it you'll need to present some real, testable, verifiable evidence.

Evidence is the key!

Evidence or STFU!

As far as imminence goes, I can't answer it better than the Bible. 2Pe 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2Pe 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

Wow. I point out that your prom date is wayyyy fucking late picking you up and you choose to respond by answering the idea of imminence with a long quote about doubters. You completely miss the point that jebus clearly expected some of the people he was addressing to NOT FUCKING DIE before he returned. Oops.

Please explain this. No dodging, ducking or evading.

And, you never answered my earlier question.
If a bastard can not enter the congregation of the lord (means he can't worship gawd) then how the did he allegedly manage it?!? Please don't try to tell me he was legitimate through Joseph. That's just plain bullshit! Nobody gets two real daddies. He was either the son of gawd and a bastard or the son of Joseph and no more holy than anyone else. Pick one, but only one.

Both God and man...The child that was conceived in her was of the Holy Spirit.

What does this shit even mean? are you claiming that gawd fathered him? If that is the case, how can he "enter into the congregation of the lord" (you know, worship gawd) if he's born to unwed parents?

Are you claiming Joseph fathered him? That would make him no more holy than you.

Or, are you claiming the holy spirit (whatever the fuck that is) fathered him? See above about the congregation and all that.

Please try to actually answer the questions asked.