(April 12, 2014 at 12:06 pm)truthBtold Wrote:(April 11, 2014 at 7:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We can ALWAYS discuss the attributes of something without implying that it exists, but that's not precisely the point.
Atheists do not generally assign attributes to gods. That is the province of believers. What atheists and our arguments do is attempt to point out that the attributes assigned to gods by the godists are self-contradictory, internally inconsistent, not in synch with what we know about the world, and so forth.
In other words, it is the theist who says, 'My god is omnipotent, omniscient, merciful, just, immutable, vengeful, ineffable and loving', while it is the non-theist who points out the brain-wobbling recto-cranial inversion needed to believe such a thing.
If you lot want to shut atheists up (or at least attempt to do so) start from the position, 'The god I believe in has no attributes whatsoever.'
Boru
addendum: Good to see you, oro. Howaya, mate?
Attributes of natural... not supernatural
Sorry, what?
Boru
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