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Unconventional opinions
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RE: Unconventional opinions
(April 11, 2014 at 12:10 pm)KUSA Wrote: Different jobs must pay differently.
Not necessarily. As I explained previously, that's simply the current model based on the erroneous premise of skill rarity. I'd ask you to consider the current balance of wage distribution and the types of roles which attract the highest salaries as an illustration of how that model causes real-world problems. There are companies which have increased salaries for 'lower-level' staff to essentially take people's money worries off the table and balanced their overall wage distribution more. In these cases, we see increased rates of staff motivation, performance and job satisfaction across the board when compared to companies which follow the traditional pay models. The idea that higher wages = higher skill = higher performance has already been thoroughly discredited. As it's a highly unintuitive idea and our business schools roll out students trainedin the traditional management mindsets, things aren't likely to change quickly but they are changing.
Quote:I am a highly skilled technician in electronics, mechanics, and hydraulics. I get payed much more than anyone I work with because I have a higher level of skills than anyone in my company. Basically I fix what others can not fix. They don't have the ability to do it.
Here's a couple of questions which might make you think a little differently:

1. Why aren't other people able to do the job you do? Is it a question of physical/intellectual capability?
2. If the end-effect to the paying customer is indistinguishable from there not being a problem which requires your unique individual input, why should your co-workers receive a lower wage so that yours can be higher?

I don't expect answers here, I'm just using the questions to stir your mental juices.
Quote:I would not do this job if I could get a cushy air conditioned low stress easy job that payed the same. I would walk away from doing what I do now. The reason I do it is because I am good at it and that translates in to money.
That's your personal prerogative. The evidence shows that the majority trend is to still want to do the jobs you're good at and enjoy doing, as long as your wage covers your general financial needs. The more balanced the wage distribution, the greater the likelihood of more people's salaries covering their needs.
Quote:Your theory is very flawed. You can get all the videos you want but it is just fantasy to believe it. The real world doesn't work that way.
The evidence shows quite the contrary.
Sum ergo sum
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Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 2:03 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 11, 2014 at 2:05 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Anomalocaris - April 11, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 3:16 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 3:44 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 11, 2014 at 4:11 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 11, 2014 at 4:31 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 4:41 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by sven - April 17, 2014 at 4:19 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 4:46 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 5:00 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 5:22 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 11, 2014 at 8:56 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 9:20 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 11, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 11, 2014 at 5:14 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 11, 2014 at 5:17 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 11, 2014 at 5:37 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 5:40 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 11, 2014 at 5:41 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 15, 2014 at 10:28 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ThePinsir - April 11, 2014 at 9:46 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ryantology - April 12, 2014 at 5:47 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 9:53 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 12, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 11, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Darkstar - April 11, 2014 at 11:42 pm
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 12, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 13, 2014 at 10:42 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 12, 2014 at 11:15 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by c172 - April 12, 2014 at 11:17 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by No_God - April 12, 2014 at 11:17 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 13, 2014 at 1:25 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Shaggy - April 13, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 14, 2014 at 10:25 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Shaggy - April 13, 2014 at 9:37 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ryantology - April 13, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by The Valkyrie - April 13, 2014 at 5:46 pm
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by Shaggy - April 13, 2014 at 5:50 pm
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 14, 2014 at 5:37 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 14, 2014 at 8:31 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Silver - April 14, 2014 at 11:22 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 14, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 14, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 15, 2014 at 4:37 am
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 14, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 14, 2014 at 2:55 pm
Unconventional opinions - by Rampant.A.I. - April 15, 2014 at 4:52 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 15, 2014 at 9:51 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 15, 2014 at 9:55 am
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 15, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 15, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 16, 2014 at 5:19 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 16, 2014 at 6:03 pm
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 15, 2014 at 5:04 pm
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 15, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 15, 2014 at 8:27 pm
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 15, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 15, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 16, 2014 at 2:58 pm
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 16, 2014 at 8:15 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 16, 2014 at 5:53 pm
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 17, 2014 at 4:33 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 17, 2014 at 9:37 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 17, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 17, 2014 at 11:42 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 17, 2014 at 11:44 pm
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 12:22 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by No_God - April 18, 2014 at 9:15 am
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 18, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 18, 2014 at 9:53 pm
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 19, 2014 at 1:25 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 19, 2014 at 1:31 am
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