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Unconventional opinions
RE: Unconventional opinions
(April 15, 2014 at 9:22 am)Quantum Theorist Wrote:
(April 15, 2014 at 9:02 am)ElDinero Wrote: 1. How would we terraform the moon? How, with current technology, would we go about exploring the cosmos to a greater degree than we already are (which is to say with satellites, probes, rovers etc)?

Well first of all, it's inevitable that we will explore and terraform other planets or moons. As far as how to do it? why the hell are you asking me how to do it? Do you realize this is a hypothetical thread and not an actual call to action of ones ideas?

(April 15, 2014 at 9:02 am)ElDinero Wrote: 2. How sentient should the animal be? Where will you draw the line? If they're going to be treated as people, will they be subject to human laws? This idea is just plain mental.

Sufficiently sentient.

Dolphins and Orca's qualify. I'd give them a lot more rights than they currently do, wouldn't you? Or are you some heartless piece of shit that doesn't care for another living things suffering on the same level or close the same level of suffering you can.

(April 15, 2014 at 9:02 am)ElDinero Wrote: Actually I think most of your ideas are pretty shit or stupid, or exist only in a utopian fantasy. I mean I guess sure, free water and food for all would be terrific. But you might as well put 'nobody should have to work', it's pointless.

That's why they're called "unconventional opinions" you unpleasant douche.

Go into why they're bad ideas instead of just making a blanket statement. Most of my list is pretty damn sensible I don't know what kind of guy has a problem with things like proper distribution of wealth or wanting better gaming or no taboo over things etc.

It may be a hypothetical thread, but surely it's implied that there should be some kind of practical way to achieve these goals, otherwise why not just say 'no hardships for anyone'? In what way is 'free food and water for all' unconventional? I would think that support for such an idea would be near universal. But nobody would suggest it because it's so fantastical and is pointless in a discussion like this.

Similarly, in what way is 'we should explore the cosmos' unconventional? I'm not sure you understand what the word means if you think it's unconventional. The only question that remains is how we would go about doing it.

Obviously I'm in favour of animal welfare generally, but what is it you mean when you say they should be given person-hood?
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Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 2:03 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 11, 2014 at 2:05 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Anomalocaris - April 11, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 3:16 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Anomalocaris - April 11, 2014 at 3:24 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 3:44 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 11, 2014 at 4:11 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 11, 2014 at 4:31 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 4:41 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Anomalocaris - April 11, 2014 at 5:04 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by sven - April 17, 2014 at 4:19 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Chas - April 19, 2014 at 12:09 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 4:46 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 5:00 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 5:22 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 11, 2014 at 5:14 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 7:41 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 11, 2014 at 8:56 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 9:20 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 11, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 11, 2014 at 5:14 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by downbeatplumb - April 12, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 11, 2014 at 5:17 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 11, 2014 at 5:37 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 5:40 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 11, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 5:42 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 11, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 15, 2014 at 10:28 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ThePinsir - April 11, 2014 at 9:46 am
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 11, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 11, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ryantology - April 12, 2014 at 5:47 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 11, 2014 at 9:53 am
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 11, 2014 at 12:10 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 12, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 11, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Darkstar - April 11, 2014 at 11:42 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Jiggerj - April 12, 2014 at 1:49 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 12, 2014 at 2:07 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Justtristo - April 12, 2014 at 4:33 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 12, 2014 at 5:31 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Justtristo - April 12, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by downbeatplumb - April 12, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Jiggerj - April 12, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 12, 2014 at 4:53 am
Unconventional opinions - by Rampant.A.I. - April 12, 2014 at 5:10 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 12, 2014 at 7:28 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ryantology - April 12, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by No_God - April 12, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by downbeatplumb - April 12, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 12, 2014 at 11:09 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by No_God - April 12, 2014 at 12:38 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 12, 2014 at 5:09 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by c172 - April 12, 2014 at 5:16 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 12, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by CapnAwesome - April 12, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by FlyingNarwhal - April 12, 2014 at 11:54 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 12, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 12, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 13, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 13, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 13, 2014 at 2:23 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 13, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 13, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Shaggy - April 12, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 12, 2014 at 9:57 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by downbeatplumb - April 13, 2014 at 5:16 am
Unconventional opinions - by Rampant.A.I. - April 12, 2014 at 9:58 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 12, 2014 at 11:15 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by c172 - April 12, 2014 at 11:17 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by No_God - April 12, 2014 at 11:17 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 13, 2014 at 1:25 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Shaggy - April 13, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 14, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 13, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Jacob(smooth) - April 14, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Shaggy - April 13, 2014 at 9:37 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 13, 2014 at 9:41 am
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 13, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ryantology - April 13, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by The Valkyrie - April 13, 2014 at 5:46 pm
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by Shaggy - April 13, 2014 at 5:50 pm
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 13, 2014 at 6:06 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ryantology - April 13, 2014 at 7:39 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 14, 2014 at 5:37 am
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 14, 2014 at 7:07 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 14, 2014 at 8:31 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Silver - April 14, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Anomalocaris - April 14, 2014 at 2:33 pm
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 14, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 14, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 15, 2014 at 4:37 am
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 14, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 14, 2014 at 2:55 pm
Unconventional opinions - by Rampant.A.I. - April 15, 2014 at 4:52 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 15, 2014 at 8:25 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 15, 2014 at 9:02 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 15, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ElDinero - April 15, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 15, 2014 at 3:59 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Kayenneh - April 15, 2014 at 8:47 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by c172 - April 15, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 15, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Ben Davis - April 15, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 15, 2014 at 9:30 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 15, 2014 at 9:34 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 15, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by The Valkyrie - April 15, 2014 at 4:05 pm
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RE: Unconventional opinions - by The Valkyrie - April 15, 2014 at 4:23 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 15, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by The Valkyrie - April 15, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 15, 2014 at 9:55 am
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 15, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 15, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 16, 2014 at 5:19 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 16, 2014 at 6:03 pm
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 15, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 15, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 15, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 15, 2014 at 8:27 pm
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 15, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 15, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 16, 2014 at 2:58 pm
Re: RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 16, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 16, 2014 at 4:40 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 16, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 17, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by ManMachine - April 16, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 16, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 16, 2014 at 5:53 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 16, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by The Valkyrie - April 16, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 16, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by The Valkyrie - April 16, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by downbeatplumb - April 17, 2014 at 9:12 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 17, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 17, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 17, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 17, 2014 at 10:03 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 18, 2014 at 3:17 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by FlyingNarwhal - April 18, 2014 at 8:22 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 18, 2014 at 4:13 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by FlyingNarwhal - April 18, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 18, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by FlyingNarwhal - April 18, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 18, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 18, 2014 at 8:11 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 18, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by FlyingNarwhal - April 18, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 18, 2014 at 9:28 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 18, 2014 at 9:22 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by FlyingNarwhal - April 18, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 9:58 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 17, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 17, 2014 at 10:44 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by *Deidre* - April 16, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 17, 2014 at 4:07 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 17, 2014 at 4:33 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrokenQuill92 - April 17, 2014 at 9:37 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 17, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 17, 2014 at 11:42 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 17, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sedna - April 18, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 18, 2014 at 12:22 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by KUSA - April 18, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 12:22 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by No_God - April 18, 2014 at 9:15 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by FlyingNarwhal - April 18, 2014 at 9:23 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 18, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 18, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 18, 2014 at 9:28 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by MJ the Skeptical - April 18, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 18, 2014 at 9:53 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 18, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 18, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 18, 2014 at 10:11 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by FlyingNarwhal - April 18, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Coffee Jesus - April 18, 2014 at 10:17 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 18, 2014 at 10:20 pm
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Sejanus - April 19, 2014 at 1:25 am
RE: Unconventional opinions - by Losty - April 19, 2014 at 1:31 am
Unconventional opinions - by Rampant.A.I. - April 19, 2014 at 5:08 am

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