RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
April 17, 2014 at 6:37 pm
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2014 at 6:38 pm by Cyberman.)
(April 17, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Dear Stimbo,
Look what you are saying,,,"blindly accept" If I hold up a watch and say, "someone created this" and you reply, "how could you blindly accept that?" How is that logical? The watch itself is the thing that points to an intelligent designer. If I had not watch then it would be a different story. However, the fact there is a planet, and every observable thing has a cause, then we have to reasonable conclude that there is a Creator.
You're comparing man-made artifacts with naturally-occurring objects and claiming they are the same thing, then you label me as "illogical" for using your own analogy. Ok, replace "watch" with, say, a pulsar - a naturally-occurring stellar remnant with remarkably precise timekeeping properties. A non-man-made watch, in fact. Now show me the designer, or that there even needed to be one.
My point was that atheists don't necesarily take the contra-positive stance just because we do not accept your own. Not everything depends on binary thinking; there is such a thing as the neutral middle ground. One with a huge neon sign saying "Citation Needed".
(April 17, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:(April 17, 2014 at 1:52 pm)Stimbo Wrote: That Rev joins the ever-swelling ranks of those whose only strategy is to weasel around who needs to prove what and to distort their opponents' position to bolster their own speaks volumes about his honesty.
I respectfully disagree. You are entitled to your opinion. I base my answers on the Truth of God's Word and what I feel is sound reasoning. If you call that being dishonest then what can I say?
What I was calling dishonest is your insistence on distorting your opponents' position in order to make your own work; eg, redefining the definition of atheism. Or eg #2, misinterpreting what I call being dishonest. That's dishonest.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'