(April 19, 2014 at 7:39 pm)snowtracks Wrote: seriously, the point is biochemical information is genuine information not merely a scientific metaphor.
Damn, you're slow on the uptake. If you think that information exists as a non-conceptual thing that doesn't rely on minds to process it and determine the patterns in it, then please show us a unit of information? What is the measurement metric for information? How does one detect information? What does information do? How does it affect things?
You have a lot of ground to cover yet, Snowy. Nobody here has said that the word information isn't present in scientific records, nor that it has no use as a term, but when they say that a DNA molecule is "information rich," what is meant is that the DNA molecule contains numerous patterns and markers that we can conceptually show to result in a number of effects. Information isn't some intrinsic thing within DNA, it results from our ability to reliably determine what X, Y and Z chemical components of DNA will do in a given situation.
You're sitting here trying to characterize information as existing in DNA separate from human interaction with it, like coconut milk in a coconut, to which I say: Snowy, if you crack open a DNA molecule, "information" won't come spilling out, objectively extant and independent from our ability to read it.
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