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First Cause Argument
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RE: First Cause Argument
(April 21, 2014 at 11:10 am)whateverist Wrote: I'll just wait for someone to find a nugget worth a few yucks and then chime in. Carry on.
Looks like a wall of text based on the premise that god exists because he has to. I find this line of argument fascinating. The specific god that this guy worships has done such a poor job of making itself known that he falls back on "but something must be out there" as an argument. Much in the way that Christians make a big point about whether experts agree that "Jesus was real" when they are really just pointing out that the best they can do is kinda confirm that a guy named Jesus happened to live in those times and might have been a rabble-rouser.

Based on the choice (and the consequences) that the Abrahamic god is offering to humanity, you'd expect that he'd do a better job of making himself known than "he could be out there, in some form indistinguishable from all of those false gods!"
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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First Cause Argument - by super spidey man - April 21, 2014 at 11:03 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Whateverist - April 21, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Tonus - April 21, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Silver - April 21, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by downbeatplumb - April 21, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Jackalope - April 21, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by pocaracas - April 21, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Jackalope - April 21, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Minimalist - April 21, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by JesusHChrist - April 21, 2014 at 12:18 pm
First Cause Argument - by Rampant.A.I. - April 21, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by RobbyPants - April 21, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by MindForgedManacle - April 22, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Neo-Scholastic - April 23, 2014 at 10:22 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by MindForgedManacle - April 23, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Neo-Scholastic - April 23, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Whateverist - April 23, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Neo-Scholastic - April 24, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Whateverist - April 24, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by ManMachine - April 24, 2014 at 7:21 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Cato - April 23, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Simon Moon - April 23, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Cato - April 23, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by ManMachine - April 23, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Godlesspanther - April 23, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by ManMachine - April 24, 2014 at 6:16 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Ryantology - April 24, 2014 at 7:01 am

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