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First Cause Argument
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RE: First Cause Argument
(April 23, 2014 at 10:21 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: At one time it was things like lightening, volcanos, rain, tides, etc. I find it rather telling that theists now have to go all the way back to first cause.

To be fair to the OP, St Thomas was writing about the first cause in the thirteenth century. The concept of first cause (or prime mover as Aquinas called it) has been conflated into the more recent debate about the origins of the Universe by the latest pernicious breed of creationists in an attempt to give their argument more weight. It hasn't worked.

I can only assume they feel unloved by their god and are filling the void by choking-up all corners of the web with badly researched, poorly understood pseudoscience in an attempt to get his attention.

MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci

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First Cause Argument - by super spidey man - April 21, 2014 at 11:03 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Whateverist - April 21, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Tonus - April 21, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Paraselene - April 21, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by downbeatplumb - April 21, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Jackalope - April 21, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by pocaracas - April 21, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Jackalope - April 21, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Minimalist - April 21, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by JesusHChrist - April 21, 2014 at 12:18 pm
First Cause Argument - by Rampant.A.I. - April 21, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by RobbyPants - April 21, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by MindForgedManacle - April 22, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Neo-Scholastic - April 23, 2014 at 10:22 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by MindForgedManacle - April 23, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Neo-Scholastic - April 23, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Whateverist - April 23, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Neo-Scholastic - April 24, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Whateverist - April 24, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by ManMachine - April 24, 2014 at 7:21 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Cato - April 23, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Simon Moon - April 23, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Cato - April 23, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by ManMachine - April 23, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by Godlesspanther - April 23, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: First Cause Argument - by ManMachine - April 24, 2014 at 6:16 am
RE: First Cause Argument - by Ryantology - April 24, 2014 at 7:01 am

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