RE: The nearness to God factor. How do Atheists feel about moving higher or lower?
April 24, 2014 at 10:53 am
(April 20, 2014 at 8:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't know if people misunderstand what I'm saying or purposely doing a straw man.
I said nothing of religious or people believing God being better or closer to God.
I'm saying, in absence of God, what do people feel they gravitate towards since I feel when we become more good, we reach higher stages, which are closer to God as there are infinite stages, and you can go higher up or lower, and when I think of higher and lower, I think of it with respect to a metaphysical existence.
I'm asking to see people's opinions. I've been here for some time now, and I've always made it clear, that I don't deem theists superior to atheists, nor do I think disbelieving in God will make you a non-righteous person or distance you from God. I've said the exact opposite in fact, saying, I think Atheists can be as close to God as Theists can be, if they do good and are loving people.
This is a really odd belief since I thought you believed in the quran?
Quote:But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.
Quote:And those who disbelieve and deny Our signs - those will be companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally."
Quote: And for the disbelievers is a humiliating punishment.
Quote: Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
Quote:And for the disbelievers is a painful punishment.
Quote:And the disbelievers - they are the wrongdoers.
Quote:And whoever of you reverts from his religion [to disbelief] and dies while he is a disbeliever - for those, their deeds have become worthless in this world and the Hereafter, and those are the companions of the Fire, they will abide therein eternally.
Quote:It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
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