Self-evident truth is a thing

[Chad32]

Never really heard of an apatheist, but that may be a more accurate word. I am more often merely apathetic to theism than hostile.

There's a lot of evidence for the big bang, or more accurately big expansion. It's possible that another universe caved in on itsself, then expanded again to begin ours, though that's just my personal thought. I don't know how many other people think that.

Like I said, I don't really care. The laws of physics and such didn't really exist until after the big expansion, so it's hard for science to know what happened before it. I find it odd that the writers of the bible believed that heaven was just above the sky, and the stars were just cracks in the firmament. Now that we know more, he's been pushed into either a spiritual realm, or the beginning of the universe itsself.

Talking about beginnings and eternal things is just running around in circles because there's no concrete proof either way. Without concrete proof, you just won't convince most people unless you get them when they're emotionally vulnerable.