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I am curious about islam
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RE: I am curious about islam
Subhan Ahmed, for every verse from the Qu'ran you quote preaching peace and tolerance, there are 2 or 3 preaching death to the infidel.

Just studying the Qu'ran it's obvious that most of the stories have been stolen, the laws are all mainly old arab laws, with a few jewish and christian ideas thrown in. Here are just a few:
  • Moses and the fish - from Arabic folk tales about search for eternal life. May be originally from Babylon - the Babylonian Ugarit texts has a very similar story about the god El (not unknown in and around Arabia).
  • Muhammad’s Night Journey to Heaven - read about different such travels in Jewish Merabah mysticism or even more the Gnostic “Enoc’s Journy to Heaven” (nearly identical to Ibn Ishaq’s by Islam accepted story after Abu Said al-Chudri).
  • The sleepers in the cave - the even today well known religious fable from Ephesus, about the 7 youths that fled from emperor Decius (a real emperor reigning only 2 years around 250 AD) and went to sleep in a cave, and then woke up maximum 196 years later (the Quran says 300 or 309 years) under the more well known emperor Theodosius). Just read it - it normally even is better told than in the Quran.
  • Alexander the Great/Duh’l Quarnayn - anyone knowing the story of Alexander; read this part oft Surah 18 and weep - or laugh. Copycatting at its most naïve. (He f. ex. was no Muslim, he never went west - this we know from history - there no place in the world was enough iron blocks to close off a whole valley around 330 BC, etc.).
  • The 7 heavens. Originally from Greek and Persian wrong astronomy, but quite likely via the Zohar and/or the Hagigah.
  • The raven and Cain. This is to be found in "The Targum of Jonathan ben Uzziah" and also in "The Targum of Jerusalem". Muhammad "borrowed" from many places.
  • Abraham delivered from Nimrod's fire. Taken from "Midrash Rabbah". And another point: Abraham and Nimrod did not live at the same time (if they ever lived). Muhammad had a strong tendency to mix persons from different times (f. ex. Haman and Ramses II - some 800 years wrong. Or Mary and Miriam - some 1200 years wrong.)

All of the above copy and pasted, google is our friend. There are literally hundreds of otehrs, but i'm lazy and cannot be arsed looking for any more.

The teachings in your book may talk of events from 4 or 5 thousand years ago, but Islam IS the youngest of the major religions, you can flower it up any way you want. Sorry mate.

Also, I do have one question for you, could you tell me your views on sex with minors? By minors, I mean under-age girls? I'm not trying to offend, I have a genuine want to know how you view that subject.

Thanks
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I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 26, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Minimalist - April 26, 2014 at 9:03 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 26, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by DeistPaladin - May 9, 2014 at 4:18 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Paraselene - April 26, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 26, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Paraselene - April 26, 2014 at 9:12 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Senshi - April 26, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Minimalist - April 26, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Senshi - April 26, 2014 at 11:38 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by thequestion - April 27, 2014 at 8:14 am
Re: RE: I am curious about islam - by KUSA - April 26, 2014 at 9:17 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 26, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by CapnAwesome - April 26, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 26, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 1, 2014 at 3:59 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Deepthought - May 10, 2014 at 11:33 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by sven - April 27, 2014 at 8:32 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by major - April 27, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 27, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by major - April 28, 2014 at 1:08 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 28, 2014 at 6:16 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by major - April 28, 2014 at 6:52 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Senshi - April 27, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 27, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by FreeTony - April 27, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 27, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 27, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 28, 2014 at 7:57 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 28, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 28, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 28, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 28, 2014 at 6:20 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by sven - April 28, 2014 at 7:29 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Mister Agenda - April 28, 2014 at 2:59 pm
I am curious about islam - by Rampant.A.I. - April 28, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Minimalist - April 28, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 28, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 28, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 28, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 1:53 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 8:39 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 9:17 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Hoopington - May 9, 2014 at 4:05 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Minimalist - April 28, 2014 at 8:58 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 28, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 2:09 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - April 29, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Minimalist - May 8, 2014 at 2:48 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Subhan Ahmad - May 8, 2014 at 5:37 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Minimalist - May 11, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - May 15, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Minimalist - July 15, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 5:51 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 29, 2014 at 6:58 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - April 29, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Chas - May 10, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Senshi - April 29, 2014 at 11:15 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - April 30, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Zidneya - May 1, 2014 at 4:47 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Subhan Ahmad - May 8, 2014 at 1:08 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Hoopington - May 8, 2014 at 7:34 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Subhan Ahmad - May 8, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Hoopington - May 9, 2014 at 4:22 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Subhan Ahmad - May 10, 2014 at 10:11 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by paulpablo - May 11, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Ksa - May 9, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Subhan Ahmad - May 10, 2014 at 8:29 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Ksa - May 10, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - May 8, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Subhan Ahmad - May 8, 2014 at 9:49 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Subhan Ahmad - May 10, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Subhan Ahmad - May 11, 2014 at 9:38 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Ksa - May 11, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Hegel - May 15, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by DeistPaladin - May 15, 2014 at 7:09 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Hegel - May 16, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Minimalist - May 15, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - May 15, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Minimalist - May 15, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Marsellus Wallace - May 15, 2014 at 7:08 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by The Valkyrie - May 15, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by lordofgemini - May 15, 2014 at 11:03 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 16, 2014 at 3:44 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - May 23, 2014 at 6:14 pm
I am curious about islam - by Rampant.A.I. - May 23, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Duke Guilmon - May 23, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 25, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Zidneya - May 25, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 6:16 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Chas - June 11, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 3:08 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Chas - June 11, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by WinterHold - July 14, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 14, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by WinterHold - July 15, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by Rabb Allah - July 15, 2014 at 1:06 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: I am curious about islam - by A-g-n-o-s-t-i-c - July 25, 2014 at 6:34 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by A-g-n-o-s-t-i-c - July 25, 2014 at 7:41 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 25, 2014 at 8:27 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by A-g-n-o-s-t-i-c - July 25, 2014 at 8:37 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 25, 2014 at 8:38 am
RE: I am curious about islam - by Dystopia - July 25, 2014 at 9:38 am

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