Why is it the employer's responsibility to provide a living wage?
May 12, 2014 at 8:38 pm
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(May 12, 2014 at 7:55 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(May 12, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Heywood Wrote: Their is no social contract.
Really.
What are your thoughts on the relationship of the authors and signatories of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution and the philosophy of Jean-Jaques Rousseau?
ETA - John Locke as well, while you're at it.
Also, you know, Thomas Hobbes.
(May 12, 2014 at 8:29 pm)Heywood Wrote:(May 12, 2014 at 8:19 pm)whateverist Wrote: Let me break that down for the hard of understanding. Of course there is no literal social contract. What I'm referring to is the general agreement that the status quo is tenable. Without that agreement, you have chaos, unrest and perhaps even revolution. At some point, starving while I'm waiting for begrudgingly provided healthcare out of the emergency room just stops looking like a better alternative than looting and taking what I need. We have enjoyed almost 200 years of civil order. Don't think that is an inevitable outcome. Stability and civilization only seem assured to the historically shortsighted and dimwitted.
Don't call it a contract. A contract is a mutual agreement between all parties involved. Call it a social edict because that is what it is. You don't want agreement, you want to impose your will on others. You want to force people to pay a wage that is different then what is agreed upon by the parties involved in the exchange. You think that by calling it contract you give your edict legitimacy...but that trick only fools the halfwits.
Uh, what? You really have no idea where the phrase "social contract" comes from. It was proposed by Thomas Hobbes, who saw government as a necessary evil, a leviathan to protect the people.
I don't understand what your issue is, here. If employers can't pay their employees enough to live on working full time, the burden of corporate welfare should not fall on the government. If an employer wants to exchange money for labor, what is so difficult about understanding those employees need to be able to afford housing, transportation and food to continue employment.
That's not the government's job. It's the employer's job.
