RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Univer...
May 15, 2014 at 5:51 pm
(May 15, 2014 at 5:22 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(May 15, 2014 at 4:54 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Not a biologist, not a neurologist...
Maybe you are aware that, if you have some ailment and go to a doctor, you have several outcomes:
- If you go to an endocrinologist, you have some problem with your hormones.
- If you go to an orthopedic doctor, you have something wrong with your bones.
- If you go to a cardiologist, you have something wrong with your heart.
- If you go to a dermatologist, you have something wrong with your skin
- and so on and so on...
This Penrose fellow is a mathematical physicist, so deals mostly with theoretical physics and quantum is everywhere for him... So it makes sense that he'd come up with something involving his field of work... or else he'd just shut up.
He's biased.
His notion of computer processing on the algorithmic level does not correlate with the kind of processing done on a neurological brain. He strawmans the brain with that algorithmic processing and then claims it can't be like that... well whoopedidah!
Except for the fact that his coauthor, Stuart Hammerhoff, does have the required medical credentials and their most recent 2014 experiments have shown some support for their theory. You might also look into Henry Stapp's work as well. ORarc isn't the only game in town. You guys talk big about science but when it comes to mind-brain Issues you look to 19th century physics for answers.
Chad, do you have a link to the experimental results that doesn't directly cite Hameroff and Penrose? I couldn't find one when I first heard about it a few months ago and I found that a bit strange. It seemed to me to suggest that the article was colored to their interpretation rather than just presenting the facts.