RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Univer...
May 15, 2014 at 6:09 pm
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2014 at 6:20 pm by Hegel.)
(May 15, 2014 at 4:54 pm)pocaracas Wrote: This Penrose fellow is a mathematical physicist, so deals mostly with theoretical physics and quantum is everywhere for him... So it makes sense that he'd come up with something involving his field of work... or else he'd just shut up.
He's biased.
Argumentum ad hominem.
Quote:His notion of computer processing on the algorithmic level does not correlate with the kind of processing done on a neurological brain. He strawmans the brain with that algorithmic processing and then claims it can't be like that... well whoopedidah!
Well, it is the AI folks themselves who strawman the brain with algorithms ...
In any case, the Orc OR theory does not rest on his Gödelian argument, which might not be fully convincing.
(May 15, 2014 at 5:51 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Chad, do you have a link to the experimental results that doesn't directly cite Hameroff and Penrose? I couldn't find one when I first heard about it a few months ago and I found that a bit strange. It seemed to me to suggest that the article was colored to their interpretation rather than just presenting the facts.
You mean this article:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...4513001188
?