(May 15, 2014 at 9:16 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(May 15, 2014 at 7:30 pm)Lek Wrote: I was just in the thread in which a member lived close to where the wildfires are burning in southern California and the member stated that she would ask for prayers, but that wouldn't do any good anyway. I am concerned and I did pray for all of them down there as I believe God listens to our prayers and does help people. What I read from atheists were wishes that things would be okay, with statements like "you're in my thoughts" and "good luck" and "take care of yourself" and so on. What does "being in your thoughts" do for anybody? Since these statements are totally worthless, why don't these people just skip the wasted words and make suggestions like "get some batteries since the power could go out" or "pack up and be ready to get out" or some practical help.
Let's put it this way. I (and others) let those affected know that we're thinking of them and concerned for their safety, because we are powerless to render any practical help. You pray for your god to help them.
The fires are still raging.
You do the maths.
I wonder if Christians really think anything will change whether they pray or not about something like this. Seems disrespectful to me, to remind God to protect anything or anyone--thats like assuming he doesn't know. Or that he's not doing enough. Or that its his responsibility to do something.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.