RE: What is the function of religion?
May 16, 2014 at 12:55 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2014 at 1:00 am by Zidneya.)
(May 15, 2014 at 5:53 pm)Hegel Wrote: So, if you want a society without religion, then you at least should take pains in order to understand religion, not simply take it as "drug", etc.
That's interesting since most atheist I know comes from religious families, specially christian ones.
What do you want from us do you want us to memorize every passage from the bible and tell you why we don't accept it? Because I know atheists who do that.
Cause I guarantee you that those atheist who used to be christians they believed in all the bible stuff, or at least most of it them, they believed faith was a good thing, they believed religion was a beneficial to the world, they believed in the resurrection, they accepted christ in their lives. And then latter in life they all realized that it was all bullshit. And they drop it. They were religious and now there not. Nor condone the atrocities that religion does and think that it's okay to let religion provides beneficial functions that governments should do instead because that it's governments job. That idea that if you are an atheist now but you weren't a religious before nor tried to understand it before that's such a lie don't act like you know us because you don't.
I was religious to begin with I went to Catechism they taught me to understand religion. A lot of ex-christians were christians before and now they are not because they know better. So don't say that because you're making a fool of yourself. Because it's stupid in the first place and you're not gonna last long discussing with atheism in this forum without making the ridicule.
I guarantee you that if you know an atheist, a full developed atheist that not only doesn't belief in god promotes atheism have read the bible and tried to understand it than most random christians that you know.And if you gave them a quiz atheist would do better. I think some survey has done that particular thing they asks different people what do they know about various religions what the teach and what they have done and the atheist score highest. Because we think about this stuff all the time so we generally understand more. And unlike religious we know about the holes are in particular issues this religions too. So yes I read and tried to understand larges parts the function of religion in this world. Other people have done than and about a whole of holy books too to not only know about christianity but religion in general. I have a question for you.
What atheist teachings have you tried to understand? Do you know their benefits? Their philosophies? How atheist feel after embrace atheism? What have they've done to help other people?
Because if you wanna have this discussion. You you at least should take pains in order to understand atheism, not simply take it as a bunch of critics.
I mean I should have knew better that you didn't came here to ask us questions you came here to defend your views of religions. Because the details are right there.
(May 14, 2014 at 8:19 am)Hegel Wrote: (3) How could these functions, if one remains thoroughly secular in one's ethics and thought, be implemented within a secular framework; should an atheist or a secularist develop a secular religion, and if so, what could it look?That questions right there is based on the idea that secularism can't be beneficial and that we need religion or develop a religion to function as a society. Secular countries have been proven to work better than religious countries. Mostly because they try to help people in the here and now, instead of worrying about some other existence that hasn't been proven to exist yet.
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(May 15, 2014 at 3:42 pm)Hegel Wrote: A fact: on this planet, no society (except our own for less than a century) has existed without a religion.
Now, the New Atheists simply ignore this fact and what it might be (or it is very likely that it is) a sign of:
on communal level, religion increases the fitness of a society.
Tell me genius is this video about an atheist ignoring the fact of the benefits of religion?
Dis he mention it as a drug? Did he overpass all the benefits of religion?
You say New Atheists simply ignore this fact IS HE IGNORING THAT FACT? It didn't took me 5 minutes to find an atheist statement that proves different of what you say atheists do.
So don't act like you understand atheism because you don't. You came here asking question like you wanna gain knowledge when you simply want to make a statement just because(I assume) you heard an atheist saying something about religion being a drug that you couldn't tolerate.