Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.

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Atheist require proof from Christians and I've given mine, all I ask is the atheist do the same as I was willing to do.

All we've ever asked from is for demonstrable evidence that your god is real, as you claim he is. You have never done this. You would know that you have succeeded when the consensus on here becomes "Yes! Godschild's god is real!" But it's not. Not even close.

You are limiting the statement to, proof of God's existence, in actuality I did not define any limits.
I haven't done it to your satisfaction, for other Christians I think I have, you want physical evidence about a spiritual being and that most likely want happen. How is it that you could believe a non Christian could see and understand spiritual evidence of the God of the Bible.

I've seen all to often that atheist say all claims need proof...

Citation needed. I have never said this. Has anyone else here ever said this? I think not.

What, you require citation from me, you want let me stand on a statement but, I'm suppose to allow you to.

Carl Sagan once said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." What do you think qualifies as an extraordinary claim? If I tell you that I had a sandwich for lunch, is that claim extraordinary?

It is, if you did not have one, I don't care what one eats for lunch. The same goes for being an atheist, but I do care to know that one is what they profess to be.

Christopher Hitchens added an extra line to this already famous quote: "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." Since your evidence has not satisfactorily justified your claim that a deity exists, all the atheists that have ever spoken to you here continue to dismiss your claims.

That's one's choice, and it's my choice to dismiss your claim to be an atheist without proof.

...am I suppose to just ignore the claim that all claims require proof...

Nope. Know why? Because, as I mentioned earlier, nobody says this. Ordinary claims, such as stating that I am married, or that I drive a car to work, or that I am an atheist, can generally be taken at face value. No need for investigation is needed.

You can claim those things, but what makes those claims true, your word, why? How am I suppose to know if you have an agenda to lie about those things. Is that not a possibility?

But do you know what's great about the examples I listed? I can actually provide demonstrable evidence that all three statements are true. I have a marriage certificate from the state of Arizona, so I am definitely married. I drive a 2013 Ford Mustang, for which I can provide registration to show that it's in my possession and gas receipts to show that I drive it. I'm also an atheist, to which is evidence by the fact that I do not hold a belief in any deity.

Till you get to the atheist part I can accept those things, I can check those out. However how am I suppose to check out what you feel, by your actions and speech. Atheist tell Christians we can't tell whither an person is a Christian or not, we say we can by their speech and actions, but that doesn't seem acceptable to atheist, so why should I grant your claim to be an atheist by your actions and speech, as you note below.

Since actions speak louder than words, I submit to you my online activities: the way in which I engage theists in discussion whether it's here or on social media and my video history on YouTube, to include the many comments that I have left there. My ideology is decidedly one of non-belief, as evidenced by my very apparent lack of belief in a deity.

I suppose I could ask you the same thing: are you really a Southern Baptist? You may have a membership record, but perhaps it's a front. A sham!

But doesn't it sound very silly of me to suggest something so conspiratorial for no good reason?

There are many who do not believe in my God and they are not atheist, the rest was answered above.
I can't put my name onto the membership list, only a qualified member can do that, I have to be qualified to become a Southern Baptist, besides what I say I must also be physically baptized in water. So to have my name listed with the Southern Baptist I must be confirmed through my speech and actions in front of the church, a written statement want get it.

...or do atheist believe that only applies to Christians, personally I do not think that was the meaning.

Then why ask if that's what we think? The burden of proof is on anyone making a claim. Not all claims require the same level of proof.

But you've only written how you feel, you have submitted no proof your an atheist.

By the way I'm not doing this out of mistrust and the way you answer my posts we get nowhere any way, so if you believe it's mistrust I'm showing it wouldn't matter in our discussion anyway.

So...what? You're doing this to prove a point? I'm actually glad you brought this up. I think you're actually getting a much better handle on what the "burden of proof" is than some other people that grace these forums. Something of us must actually be rubbing off on you, and I likes what I sees.

Yes I'm trying to prove a point. I've always known what the burden of proof is, it is to my amazement that some atheist here (not you that I can remember) claim they know what the burden of proof is, yet when challenged on a point for proof, skirt around producing it or give an excuse that it's not necessary in some cases, I love subjective proof don't you. Okay what point have I been after, it's this Christians are not allowed to use their feelings as proof of somethings while atheist can on whatever tickles their fancy. We are to bring proof at every turn while others here do not, an excuse is all that's required of them and the others will come to their defense. You do the same to the writers of the NT, you can say you do not or they are not real, just because you have no proof of them. Shakespeare is accepted here as a real person, no one has ever proven he actually existed, the one man who had that name did not have the same hand writing. No one named William Shakespeare wrote those volumes of works, someone did but not Willy. I can't wait to see the excuses fly on this one.
Christians here are told continually hoe they feel, but when a Christian tells an atheist how they feel a cry of unfair rings out and then you can't do that you can't know how I feel. It gets tiresome of the double standard that goes on here, now prove you're an atheist.
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