Pro-life atheists

[Losty]

I am by default pro-choice, although I have my reservations about abortion, and could possibly swing the other way eventually. Personally I like that abortion is an option, I really don't want kids and abortion seems like a good back up plan, but there are a few things that make me wonder if it should be allowed. From what I've read, women are able to abort up until week 24 or somewhere around there, the main reason being that the baby has a good chance of survival outside the womb at this stage. But this bugs me mainly because this is a reflection of our advances in modern medicine, not a determination of when life begins. If further medical advances 50 years down the road somehow spawns an artificial womb, and the baby can then survive after 16 weeks, does that mean the time limit to get an abortion should drop to 16 weeks?

I think 24 weeks is important because the nervous system is developed. The fetus is not a sentient being. I don't know about thought but it can definitely feel pain and that's a pretty important limit. We, as people, kill non people all the time and no one ever cares unless we do it in a way that causes that non person a lot of unnecessary pain.

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I think everyone should be welcome to weigh in with their opinions. Even if (like someone) their opinions are disingenuous at best and and their evidence is flat out lies.

When it comes time to decide abort or not though, I don't think anyone's opinion counts except the woman who is hosting the fetus.

Hosting the fetus? The term here is that she's the Mother.

I would like to see abortion heavily restricted to when the pregnancy is proven to threaten the life of the mother and in the cases of rape.

No that is the term you want to use. A woman with a child/children is a mother. A woman with a clump of cells in her that feeds off if her body is a host.

That's really nice. You just missed pages and pages of debate. If you want to debate again fine, give reasons why you think women's rights should be restricted and we will tell you why you are wrong.