(May 24, 2014 at 2:15 pm)Lek Wrote:(May 24, 2014 at 2:25 am)oukoida Wrote: Actually, I have a problem with all organized religions. I talked about christianity just because it is the example I know best and because that's what you were talking about.
If you say "the fruit of organized christianity is evident all over the world" of course people are going to reply with something about christianity.
I am ok with every kind of religion as long as it does not harm anyone (as I wrote before, the most important Italian anti-mafia association is led by a Catholic priest who is a great person), but inevitably every organized religion will know corruption and dishonesty, since organized religion implies power and authority which in turn imply a competition for their control.
Name an institution with power and authority that does all good without corruption or misdeeds, for example civil governments, schools, hospitals, etc. Would the world be better off without them?
Now that's what I call aiming low.
Basically what you are saying is that the Church is no worse than any other institution. In other words the benefit of being God's institution is zero.
And that is your target state!
Of course - in that the actual function of the Catholic church (for example) appear to be to act as a safe haven for paedophiles where it will not only not judge them but it will actively hide, protect and move them from one place to another (ensuring a steady supply of unsuspecting child victims) I think I can understand setting your targets this low.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!