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Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Universal Intelligence"?
RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Univer...
(May 26, 2014 at 9:32 am)Cato Wrote:
(May 26, 2014 at 9:01 am)archangle Wrote: Can an universal "awareness" emerge from the "pieces that we see? The answer is far more probably "yes" than "no". In fact so much so that it is silly not to assume it. as silly as assuming there were no planets elsewhere in the 1970's.

You would do better to substantiate this claim rather than preemptively call all those who will disagree with you silly. Wild speculation.

fu

point to one "wild speculation" in my post.

(May 26, 2014 at 9:38 am)Chas Wrote:
(May 25, 2014 at 11:34 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Let's talk about this.

If mind is emergent on complexity, then the question is: complexity of what? Everything in the universe is related. And the universe includes all brains, so the complexity of the universe is necessarily greater than that of all brains. This indicates a possibility (or in this case semantic necessity) of a universal consciousness.

Why is it that some collections of matter are thought of as singular agents with many parts, and others are thought of as just a bunch of stuff happening? Why are the energetic interactions between brain cells considered more complex than those between galaxies?

Non sequitur, equivocation.
To equate the local complexity of a brain with the complexity of all brains is truly fallacious.


how about local "earth" complexity compared to "universal" complexity? one has a clear limit, one has an unknown limit. What would that suggest?
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RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Univer... - by archangle - May 26, 2014 at 11:55 am

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