Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Universal Intelligence"?

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Can an universal "awareness" emerge from the "pieces that we see? The answer is far more probably "yes" than "no". In fact so much so that it is silly not to assume it. as silly as assuming there were no planets elsewhere in the 1970's.

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point to one "wild speculation" in my post.

There you go.

Oh maybe I misunderstood "wild speculation".

no ... it clearly is not "wild speculation". Thinking that the "pieces" we see around us probably add up to something more than we know.

I would actually say it is sheer science ignorance to say they don't.

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how about local "earth" complexity compared to "universal" complexity? one has a clear limit, one has an unknown limit. What would that suggest?

I don't understand your question.

That's the problem with philosophy

Think of it in context of your belief. That "awareness emerged from complexity". From our vantage point the earth seems to have a limit to its complexity. Compare that to the complexity of the "known" universe . What might emerge from that "universe" set of interactions that we can't "see" yet?

then look at a complexity verses volume situation. The brain vs. the sun for example. Now the universe has a prediction of 14, or so, billion year size, and as of yet, an unknown complexity. hmmm.

then, along with your line of thought, the notion that the universe is build on a hierarchy of structure. from pure energy to "us". Would it be wild speculation that there is a "next step" in this structure?

What do you think it means in term of the possibility of the emergence of "a living" universe?