(May 26, 2014 at 10:20 pm)professor Wrote: What Rampant posted is the propaganda to deflect the truth.
Illuminists are both religious and political.
Just as the Catholic church and the Muslims are.
You know- like a Tootsie Roll.
The outer shell hides the secret within.
When the Devil (Lucifer) offered all the kingdoms of the world to Jesus, in return for worship, he got shown the door.
For most of us the Devil only needs to throw out a few trinkets to pacify us.
The Elete/ Illuminati have bowed down for bigger trinkets- power, prestige, fame.
The pride of life, lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes.
The great writer of Masonry (co- partners with the Shriners, Bilderburgers, Trilateral Commission, the Vatican Elete, etc) Albert Pike, wrote in his Masonic book "Morals and Dogma" that the god they worship is Lucifer.
This is one reason why Masonry is constructed like concentric circles with curses pronounced upon oneself if one strays.
The outer circles have no clue to the reality of the inner circles. Like a trap.
The highest level in Masonry is 33- corresponding to the 33 % of angels who became devils.
The purpose of the UN is what? World govt.
The purpose of the Trilateralists is what? World trade.
The Bilderburger meetings are secret/ invite only. Why?
The Club of Rome was for what? World govt.
The desire of the Vatican is one world religion under itself.
Collusion? Conspiracy?
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
I'm not disputing the Builderburger meetings and others being held in secret or the agenda of the Vatican as bullshit.
I've repeatedly mentioned that the bible as assembled by a voting committee by the Vatican or other groups makes zero sense, when they know (and in some cases have originals of) historic gospels that were voted out as "non-canon" because they contradict the already contradictory narrative of the bible.
However, as an historic group, there is factual information about the Illuminati by scholars studying the original group, and recovered writings, woodcuttings and other texts by members of the actual group that do not ever mention satanic rituals of any kind, talk about the danger of such superstition and supernatural beliefs to the enlightenment movement, and freeing the population from religious indoctrination and what amounts to mind control.
Which ironically, is exactly what you're accusing the historic group of being about, and if you look at the history of the Christianity on the whole; let alone the Vatican, the message has been warped from one of love and the pursuit of knowledge, to dogmatic adherence to doctrines and dogmas even the people writing them, and the educated clergy know are historical garbage propaganda.
Then again, I don't expect to have a serious conversation about this with someone who believes UFOs are piloted by demons, but...
The historical Illuminati, Rosicrucians, Gnostics, and other secret groups are far more interesting than the modern conspiracy theories cobbled together by people who don't even know the origins and history of their own religions, which are themselves, propaganda, and contain "beliefs" added by deliberately ordained rewrites by historic rulers and monarchs who, for instance, changed wording in a "holy" document because they wanted to get divorced.
How many other things do you think were added in by those in power at the time for personal gain?
