Common self contradiction of the religious
May 30, 2014 at 12:19 pm
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2014 at 12:21 pm by Freedom of thought.)
I seen a thread in one section called "abiogenesis is impossible", yet they believe somehow proposing a magic man to do abiogenesis with magic makes it OK.
"Something can't come from nothing!" Unless you propose a magic man to create the something from nothing, because magic fixes everything.
"Well, the second law of thermodynamics means the universe can't exist forever", yet god conveniently is able to bypass this law which was just used to demonstrate his existence, with his magic powers. How convenient!
"There is no moral accountability without a god", yet Jesus's death wipes away all their sins and misdeeds, making moral accountability non existent.
"The universe needs a cause, it is absurd for it to exist without a cause!" yet the being they are proposing exists without a cause, brilliant!
TLDR; Whenever you are in a discussion, put up standards for your opponent, and then when your side of the argument doesn't reach the criteria, just propose magic that defies those criteria, it works every time:
Theist:"Where did the universe come from? It couldn't have existed forever because the 2nd law."
Me:"The universe is made of magic pixie dust, it can create itself."
Theist:"How can it create itself? Isn't that logically incoherent?"
Me:"Oh, this is a special transcendent pixie dust, and is above the laws of logic, so it doesn't apply. Without the universe creating itself, how else could it exist? Something can't come from nothing unless it causes itself to exist!(that is my metaphysical assumption you need to accept)"
Theist:"...."
"Something can't come from nothing!" Unless you propose a magic man to create the something from nothing, because magic fixes everything.
"Well, the second law of thermodynamics means the universe can't exist forever", yet god conveniently is able to bypass this law which was just used to demonstrate his existence, with his magic powers. How convenient!
"There is no moral accountability without a god", yet Jesus's death wipes away all their sins and misdeeds, making moral accountability non existent.
"The universe needs a cause, it is absurd for it to exist without a cause!" yet the being they are proposing exists without a cause, brilliant!
TLDR; Whenever you are in a discussion, put up standards for your opponent, and then when your side of the argument doesn't reach the criteria, just propose magic that defies those criteria, it works every time:
Theist:"Where did the universe come from? It couldn't have existed forever because the 2nd law."
Me:"The universe is made of magic pixie dust, it can create itself."
Theist:"How can it create itself? Isn't that logically incoherent?"
Me:"Oh, this is a special transcendent pixie dust, and is above the laws of logic, so it doesn't apply. Without the universe creating itself, how else could it exist? Something can't come from nothing unless it causes itself to exist!(that is my metaphysical assumption you need to accept)"
Theist:"...."
