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What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
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What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
If materialists are right, then the smallest quarks are what constitute the root of existence. That would be what self-subsists.  It would be what magically exists and everything would be made from that.

if Theists are right, then the greatest existence is what constitutes the root of existence. That would be what self-subsists. It would be what magically exists and everything would be made from that.

My question to you, when you think of self-subsistence, independent existence, where do you place your bets? If neutral why neutral?

And what you know about yourself, your own self, seeing it exists, doesn't that tell you minimum existence cannot make the fabric of existence but we are connected to something higher?
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RE: What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
I think allah is bullshit and you are crazy.
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#3
RE: What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
We actually have evidence of quarks. I don't know why you would call that magical, though. We currently don't have evidence of this "something higher" you are describing. If someone finds that (whatever it even is), let me know.
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RE: What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
Particles are embedded in spacetime and adhere to certain laws, they don't really exist in isolation.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
(March 14, 2017 at 6:54 pm)Alex K Wrote: Particles are embedded in spacetime and adhere to certain laws, they don't really exist in isolation.
So what self-subsists also has some laws on it that limit it?

Or does it make more sense what self-subsists is the source of all laws?
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RE: What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
Wouldn't strings or membranes be more basic than quarks? 
As stated space-time would be a prerequisite.
I suspect we're operating at the limits of google translate judging by the OP
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RE: What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
MK : Maximum or minimal existence?  Where do you come up with this shit?
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RE: What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
(March 14, 2017 at 6:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If materialists are right, then the smallest quarks are what constitute the root of existence. That would be what self-subsists.  It would be what magically exists and everything would be made from that.

if Theists are right, then the greatest existence is what constitutes the root of existence. That would be what self-subsists. It would be what magically exists and everything would be made from that.

My question to you, when you think of self-subsistence, independent existence, where do you place your bets? If neutral why neutral?

And what you know about yourself, your own self, seeing it exists, doesn't that tell you minimum existence cannot make the fabric of existence but we are connected to something higher?

When an idiot confidently asks leading questions in the expectation of eliciting support for an idiotic position, the idiot sounds many times more idiotic then if he merely stated the idiotic position and left it at that.
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RE: What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
(March 14, 2017 at 6:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If materialists are right, then the smallest quarks are what constitute the root of existence. That would be what self-subsists.  It would be what magically exists and everything would be made from that.

if Theists are right, then the greatest existence is what constitutes the root of existence. That would be what self-subsists. It would be what magically exists and everything would be made from that.

My question to you, when you think of self-subsistence, independent existence, where do you place your bets? If neutral why neutral?

And what you know about yourself, your own self, seeing it exists, doesn't that tell you minimum existence cannot make the fabric of existence but we are connected to something higher?


I question what would count as being "at the root of existence".   Are there perspicuous examples of such things?  A good exemplar could really help me makes sense of what you're after here.

"Self subsisting"?  A cast away can be forced to become more self reliant.  Again a good example of such a thing would go a long way toward making this meaningful question.

The fact that you think such things are magical doesn't bode well though.  So everything else is made of magic stuffs?
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RE: What self-subsists, maximum or minimal existence?
MK, in 20,000 years, when we evolve further, we'll be able to see what these quarks and strings a made of....

My bet is that they'll all have little smiley jesus faces logo'd onto them for copyright reasons...
But until then, you're just too obsessed with old man Allah....

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