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Why Jesus is not the messiah.
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Why Jesus is not the messiah.
(May 28, 2014 at 8:05 am)alpha male Wrote:
(May 27, 2014 at 4:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Dates to the end of the 5th century and was still being edited centuries later. Somewhat late for your horseshit.
Why? A post-Christianity date helps me. Jews then had reason not to note passages indicating a suffering messiah, but they did so anyway.

Quote:According to Jewish sources, the Messiah will be born of human parents and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, (2) nor will he possess supernatural qualities.
LOL. This one is ridiculous. I once debated a Jewish counter-missionary on this topic, and he also made this claim. I asked him to provide the passages that show the messiah would be descended from David. He ignored it. I repeated the question. He dodged it. The reason he didn't want to answer is that some passages regarding descent from David also show that the messiah will be more than just a normal human. You're probably familiar with one yourself:

Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

From a time of royal bloodlines, and oligarchy, not sure what would make anyone think some random peasant would end up on a throne.



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Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Creed of Heresy - May 24, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by FlyingNarwhal - May 24, 2014 at 10:09 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Creed of Heresy - May 24, 2014 at 11:03 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Mister Agenda - May 24, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Minimalist - May 24, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Artur Axmann - May 24, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Creed of Heresy - May 25, 2014 at 7:59 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by CapnAwesome - June 2, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by ThePinsir - May 24, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Minimalist - May 24, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by downbeatplumb - May 24, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Ryantology - May 24, 2014 at 6:35 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Minimalist - May 24, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Artur Axmann - May 24, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Minimalist - May 24, 2014 at 6:40 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by downbeatplumb - May 25, 2014 at 3:53 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Artur Axmann - May 27, 2014 at 5:52 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Cyberman - May 24, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 25, 2014 at 1:00 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by max-greece - May 25, 2014 at 1:14 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by vorlon13 - May 25, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 25, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Minimalist - May 27, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by John V - May 27, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by JesusHChrist - May 27, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by John V - May 27, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by JesusHChrist - May 27, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by vorlon13 - May 27, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Minimalist - May 27, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by John V - May 28, 2014 at 8:05 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by vorlon13 - May 27, 2014 at 4:51 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Minimalist - May 27, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Artur Axmann - May 27, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by downbeatplumb - June 1, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Creed of Heresy - May 28, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Cyberman - May 27, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by vorlon13 - May 27, 2014 at 6:52 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Artur Axmann - May 27, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 28, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by vorlon13 - May 27, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Creed of Heresy - May 30, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by John V - May 31, 2014 at 7:58 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Grandizer - May 31, 2014 at 4:52 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Creed of Heresy - June 1, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by John V - June 2, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Grandizer - June 2, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by John V - June 2, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Cato - June 2, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Grandizer - June 2, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Creed of Heresy - June 3, 2014 at 3:26 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by John V - June 3, 2014 at 8:30 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Minimalist - May 31, 2014 at 5:02 pm
Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Rampant.A.I. - May 31, 2014 at 5:15 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Grandizer - May 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 2, 2014 at 1:28 am
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Cyberman - June 2, 2014 at 5:09 pm
Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Rampant.A.I. - June 2, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Tonus - June 2, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Cyberman - June 2, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Why Jesus is not the messiah. - by Egyptian - December 30, 2016 at 5:27 pm

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