RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Univer...
June 2, 2014 at 11:43 pm
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2014 at 11:43 pm by Chas.)
(June 2, 2014 at 9:07 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(June 2, 2014 at 8:14 pm)Chas Wrote: Yes, I utterly disagree. Your argument is absurd.You forgot to say, "You have no evidence to support your thought experiment." OR to acknowledge that I gave a sensible alternative-- that there is a "critical mass" of complexity under which a system could (non-arbitrarily, mind you) no longer be said to have even a tiny spark of awareness. You know what would be fun? Since you so confidently assert what mind is-- a function of complexity-- then YOU explain why you think this to be so, and precisely what kind and amount of complexity is required.
I'm sorry you value evidence so little. I don't know what that threshold is, and I have no problem saying so.
What is absurd is considering one or two neurons to be sufficiently complex to host 'awareness'.
It appears there is a threshold and a scale. That sort of thing is quite common in nature.
There are many sizes of stars but there is a mass threshold below which a ball of hydrogen won't start fusing hydrogen to helium.
We only see mind in the complex structures we call brains.
And we see degrees of consciousness and self-awareness correlate strongly to brain size - body mass ratio (encephalization quotient). One or two neurons doesn't make a brain.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.