Common self contradiction of the religious
June 5, 2014 at 1:06 pm
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(June 5, 2014 at 12:38 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 30, 2014 at 12:19 pm)Freedom of thought Wrote: "Something can't come from nothing!" Unless you propose a magic man to create the something from nothing, because magic fixes everything.
Then where did the universe come from, you seem to be implying you have an answer?
Where did God come from? What did God make the universe from?
(June 5, 2014 at 12:38 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 30, 2014 at 12:19 pm)Freedom of thought Wrote: "Well, the second law of thermodynamics means the universe can't exist forever", yet god conveniently is able to bypass this law which was just used to demonstrate his existence, with his magic powers. How convenient!
The universe was created to last forever, until sin corrupted creation, the 2nd law took effect.
Source? If that happened 6,000 years ago, why does the 2nd law effect the 14 billion year history of the universe as we know it?
(June 5, 2014 at 12:38 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 30, 2014 at 12:19 pm)Freedom of thought Wrote: "There is no moral accountability without a god", yet Jesus's death wipes away all their sins and misdeeds, making moral accountability non existent.
If there is no morally superior Being, then who do you suggest we be morally ac countable to. Jesus brings us to moral accountability, study the NT to find this out.
There is no moral accountability with a God. Confession only works to escape secular accountability. People can rape, murder, steal, rape children for years on end, then simply apologize and they're off the hook with clergy to protect them. What kind of "accountability" is that?!
(June 5, 2014 at 12:38 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 30, 2014 at 12:19 pm)Freedom of thought Wrote: "The universe needs a cause, it is absurd for it to exist without a cause!" yet the being they are proposing exists without a cause, brilliant!
You tell me, how does an eternal being have a cause or beginning if you prefer?
GC
How does an eternally contracting-expanding universe have a cause or a beginning if you prefer?
Why should anything be eternal, and why does an all powerful, all knowing conscious being eternal make more sense than an eternally contracting-expanding universe?
What would such an entity have to be conscious OF without a universe? What would such a being KNOW if there was nothing TO know? Why would that being know morality if there were only ONE entity?
