(June 6, 2014 at 10:34 am)ThePinsir Wrote:(June 6, 2014 at 10:27 am)mickiel Wrote: This is a serious read, but I am reading it; Here's a little something for you to read;
http://www.leaderu.com/science/bishop.html
That entire article was, again, an argument from ignorance, or "god of the gaps". It was also a bit of a straw man. In his conclusion, he stated that quote: "we are the products of random chance".
Evolution, if you'd read a book or two on it you'd learn, is anything BUT random! Natural selection is the driving force - species better adapted to survive do (and reproduce more), and the less suitable individuals are discarded (and reproduce less).
The author is a doctor of exercise science, and so knows a lot about the human body, and is probably intelligent. But he, too, could stand to learn what evolution is and, maybe more importantly, what it isn't.
Is this thread going to turn into a debate on evolution now? We've got like a million lol.
Oh no, I believe in evolution and agree with it, just a bit differently. We can bypass evolution and get into atheism as a proof of God. I do not believe atheism would exist without god, I really don't. One poster here said it pre existed theism, and a mind devoid of awareness of god, is thus atheist. I agree with that, primordial man was atheist, and I cannot see then theism arising out of a world of atheism.
Why would it?
It had to be part of a plan of god to have theism and atheism.