(June 6, 2014 at 10:45 am)mickiel Wrote: Oh no, I believe in evolution and agree with it, just a bit differently. We can bypass evolution and get into atheism as a proof of God. I do not believe atheism would exist without god, I really don't. One poster here said it pre existed theism, and a mind devoid of awareness of god, is thus atheist. I agree with that, primordial man was atheist, and I cannot see then theism arising out of a world of atheism.
Why would it?
It had to be part of a plan of god to have theism and atheism.
" I do not believe atheism would exist without god, I really don't."
Oh? Why not?
" I cannot see then theism arising out of a world of atheism."
I can, quite simply actually. Theism, I'd assert, arises out of two or three things: 1) a fear of death 2) a need to explain unknown events/things (like your entire thread) 3) a means of controlling people
There may be more, and I certainly don't want to present any sort of a false dichotomy. But come one, bro (or sis, idk lol). Humans have invented like 40,000 gods - and you can't see how theism can arise on its own?
I'm a bitch, I'm a lover
I'm a goddess, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint
I do not feel ashamed
I'm a goddess, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint
I do not feel ashamed