An unorthodox belief in God.

[mickiel]

Oh no, I believe in evolution and agree with it, just a bit differently. We can bypass evolution and get into atheism as a proof of God. I do not believe atheism would exist without god, I really don't. One poster here said it pre existed theism, and a mind devoid of awareness of god, is thus atheist. I agree with that, primordial man was atheist, and I cannot see then theism arising out of a world of atheism.

Why would it?
It had to be part of a plan of god to have theism and atheism.

" I do not believe atheism would exist without god, I really don't."

Oh? Why not?

" I cannot see then theism arising out of a world of atheism."

I can, quite simply actually. Theism, I'd assert, arises out of two or three things: 1) a fear of death 2) a need to explain unknown events/things (like your entire thread) 3) a means of controlling people

There may be more, and I certainly don't want to present any sort of a false dichotomy. But come one, bro (or sis, idk lol). Humans have invented like 40,000 gods - and you can't see how theism can arise on its own?

No, I can't see it. Minds completely unconscious of a god or gods, why and how would consciousness of a god emerge?

Well on second thought, if you accept that consciousness could emerge from absolute nothing, then I understand you're rationale.

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What selected evolution and natural selection?

You're thinking about it incorrectly, or more indelicately, backasswards.

Think of rain falling, filling a hole in the ground. The puddle forms to fit the shape of the hole in the ground. Isn't amazing the hole fits the shape of the puddle *exactly*! Well, not really.

In this example, the shape of the hole is akin to our environment -- the earth, sun, etc. Life (the puddle) forms to fit the environment. The environment exists first, lifeforms adapt to fit the environment.

It is as simple as that.

As for Adam and Eve existing 50,000 years ago -- none of that hogwash fits with reality. We know from genetic studies there were never less than a few thousand humans in existence. We also know the source man and source woman came from two different geographic regions (and probably different time periods) in Africa. The other lines died out.

There was no Adam. No Eve. No original sin. No need for Jesus. No need for Christianity.

Genetics is a bitch.

In my view, there is no need for cursing. It ruins a good point.