RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 6, 2014 at 11:03 am
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 11:07 am by mickiel.)
(June 6, 2014 at 11:00 am)ThePinsir Wrote:(June 6, 2014 at 10:54 am)mickiel Wrote: Alright then, no more saying " I think", no more using Caps, if anyone else has things they want me to do and stop doing, just let me know. This definitely happened; these are historical events that happened to prove consciousness led to civilization;
transportation
education
science
religion
language
math
astrology
agriculture
war
archaeology
All this and more are signs of a definite curve in now conscious man, that primordial did not have in our capacity.
Why? Again points to a god.
What you're doing now is pre-supposing that it's all something super special, like modern humanity is some sort of "goal". It's not. Education, science, religion, language, everything in your list are byproducts of a species that evolved to have a big brain, and is, basically, nothing more.
For all we know everything on that list can exist on a billion other planets in our galaxy. Your view is very anthro-centric. I guess there's nothing WRONG with that, but it's not evidence of a god guiding the process.
Where we're at today is, simply, where we're at today. It like - if I drop a leaf from the top of a tree, the odds of it landing on any one spot, facing a certain direction, are 1 in a billion-zillion-zillion-trillion, but it's going to land SOMEWHERE, right?
Life only exist here, that is where we are at today, there is absolutely zero evidence of human life anywhere else. And that is just another proof of god; it was planned; its deliberate; its anthropic; its logical; its reasonable;
its academically pointing again to god.
(June 6, 2014 at 11:02 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(June 6, 2014 at 10:54 am)mickiel Wrote: Alright then, no more saying " I think", no more using Caps, if anyone else has things they want me to do and stop doing, just let me know. This definitely happened; these are historical events that happened to prove consciousness led to civilization;
transportation
education
science
religion
language
math
astrology
agriculture
war
archaeology
All this and more are signs of a definite curve in now conscious man, that primordial did not have in our capacity.
Why? Again points to a god.
Again, you're not citing an actual origin here.
learning to make a rudimentary axe is conducive to eventually formulating a strategy of war.
Learning to sit in a cave in larger groups is conducive to the knowledge of safer in numbers.
Learning to place foliage over your ditch to protect you from the elements is conducive to building a sky scraper to house thousands of people.
Primordial 'man' (what do you mean by 'man' by the way?) had many skills of survival and adaption that were precursors to the society we live in today, but it appears you've discounted them?
You've started looking at this 'curve' when it was half way up.
None of this points to a god. It points to an argument from ignorance and an argument from personal incredulity ("there's no way this could mean anything other than x").
I'd also appreciate some elucidations on my previous points.
I have read the rules, I am doing my best with what I understand. If you do not like the way I debate, then I can withdraw my threads and move on.
