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TV and Religion
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RE: TV and Religion
Evie Wrote:How can someone hold UNtrue objective knowledge?

How can someone hold objective knowledge in the first place?

There is no such thing. It is a misnomer. Knowledge is necessarily subjective. Even if all of "us" knew the same thing to an equal extent: it can at best be considered inter-subjective.

Oh, and there is no differentiation between untrue objective knowledge and true objective knowledge (for the sake of argument, if it DID exist, though it really cannot). Why would there be?

Quote:If God exists then those who believe in him "know" that he exists in the philosophical sense I thought. How can there be any objective knowledge that isn't true?
No... if "God" exists then those who know he exists were right in their knowledge. There is nothing separate, save corretedness. Why should there be any other difference between correct objective knowledge and incorrect objective knowledge? What different occurs save correctness?

Quote:But that's subjective knowing.
Of course it is. Can you imagine it otherwise?

Quote:If there truly is an omniscient God that "knows" everything, then that's in the objective sense so how could it be false?
Even though it may know everything... it is a wholly different thing to say he is right about everything. Indeed the latter would be contradictory to the last. Think about that for a moment and you'll come up with so many examples it will flatten you.

Quote:I thought objective knowledge is something that is absolutely known by definition? As opposed to merely humans thinking they know.

But what is "absolutely known"? A rock doesn't know anything at all... how can such a thing as "absolute" or "objective" knowledge exist in the first place?

And even if a thing could be absolutely known... why should it be any more right than any other knowledge? There seems no reason to think this to me...
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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TV and Religion - by Eilonnwy - April 26, 2010 at 7:28 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Paul the Human - April 26, 2010 at 7:39 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Rob - April 26, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Eilonnwy - April 26, 2010 at 8:06 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by fr0d0 - April 26, 2010 at 8:08 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by theVOID - April 26, 2010 at 8:11 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Eilonnwy - April 26, 2010 at 8:25 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by theVOID - April 27, 2010 at 5:26 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by TheMultiverseTheory - April 27, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Violet - April 28, 2010 at 3:24 am
RE: TV and Religion - by Edwardo Piet - April 28, 2010 at 1:24 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Violet - April 28, 2010 at 2:31 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Edwardo Piet - April 28, 2010 at 2:33 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Violet - April 28, 2010 at 2:36 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Edwardo Piet - April 28, 2010 at 2:47 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Violet - April 28, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Edwardo Piet - April 28, 2010 at 2:58 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Violet - April 28, 2010 at 3:07 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Edwardo Piet - April 28, 2010 at 3:11 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Violet - April 28, 2010 at 5:49 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Edwardo Piet - May 2, 2010 at 8:46 am
RE: TV and Religion - by Scarecrow2407 - April 28, 2010 at 10:01 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by Violet - May 2, 2010 at 11:28 am
RE: TV and Religion - by Edwardo Piet - May 2, 2010 at 11:51 am
RE: TV and Religion - by Samson - May 2, 2010 at 3:37 pm
RE: TV and Religion - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 2, 2010 at 4:38 pm

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