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Common self contradiction of the religious
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RE: Common self contradiction of the religious
(June 5, 2014 at 1:08 pm)Tonus Wrote: Here's a mind-bender: if god is an eternal being, that means that he literally waited forever to create the Earth!
Did time exist before the creation or was time created along with the material world? (Genesis 1:1 and 1:3-5)

If time didn't exist before creation, and eternity is a measure of time, then how can God have waited an eternity prior to creating the earth?
(June 5, 2014 at 1:11 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: If God created space and time where there was none before, how can we say for certain God is eternal? Does it not make more sense to say God existed, then time existed, therefore God predates time, but is not eternal in the true sense of the word?
Very well put. God transcends time, or God is timeless. Because we live in a state of time, it's difficult to conceptualize would it would mean to exist in a state without time, and thus find it difficult to answer the question: How long has something existed that can't be measured by time? I think this is why people use the word "eternal" to explain the nature of God.
(June 5, 2014 at 2:13 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: I'm sorry, how is the idea that something created itself any more logically consistent from something from nothing?

It's not.

Who is making this argument?

If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?



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RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by orangebox21 - June 7, 2014 at 12:32 am

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