RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 7, 2014 at 12:04 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2014 at 12:06 pm by Confused Ape.)
(June 7, 2014 at 11:18 am)mickiel Wrote: By the way, have you ever seen " The Nuzi Tablets", a great find in biblical archaeology.
Have you heard about the tablets which relate a Babylonian account of the creation of man and a flood? Atra-Hasis Synopsis
Quote:Tablet I contains a creation myth about the Sumerian gods Anu, Enlil, and Enki, gods of sky, wind, and water, “when gods were in the ways of men” according to its incipit. Following the Cleromancy (casting of lots), sky is ruled by Anu, earth by Enlil, and the freshwater sea by Enki. Enlil assigned junior divines[6] to do farm labor and maintain the rivers and canals, but after forty years the lesser gods or dingirs rebelled and refused to do strenuous labor. Instead of punishing the rebels, Enki, who is also the kind, wise counselor of the gods, suggested that humans be created to do the work. The mother goddess Mami is assigned the task of creating humans by shaping clay figurines mixed with the flesh and blood of the slain god Geshtu-E, “a god who had intelligence” (his name means “ear” or “wisdom”).[7] All the gods in turn spit upon the clay. After ten months, a specially made womb breaks open and humans are born. Tablet I continues with legends about overpopulation and plagues. Atrahasis is mentioned at the end of Tablet I.
Tablet II begins with more overpopulation of humans and the god Enlil sending first famine and drought at formulaic intervals of 1200 years to reduce the population. In this epic Enlil is depicted as a nasty capricious god while Enki is depicted as a kind helpful god, perhaps because priests of Enki were writing and copying the story. Tablet II is mostly damaged, but ends with Enlil's decision to destroy humankind with a flood and Enki bound by an oath to keep the plan secret.
Tablet III of the Atrahasis Epic contains the flood story. This is the part that was adapted in the Epic of Gilgamesh, tablet XI. Tablet III of Atrahasis tells how the god Enki warns the hero Atrahasis (“Extremely Wise”) of Shuruppak, speaking through a reed wall (suggestive of an oracle) to dismantle his house (perhaps to provide a construction site) and build a boat to escape the flood planned by the god Enlil to destroy humankind. The boat is to have a roof “like Apsu” (a subterranean, fresh water realm presided over by the god Enki), upper and lower decks, and to be sealed with bitumen. Atrahasis boards the boat with his family and animals and seals the door. The storm and flood begin. Even the gods are afraid. After seven days the flood ends and Atrahasis offers sacrifices to the gods. Enlil is furious with Enki for violating his oath. But Enki denies violating his oath and argues: “I made sure life was preserved.” Enki and Enlil agree on other means for controlling the human population.
It's likely that the story of Abraham is a mythological account of people migrating from Mesopotamia to Canaan. The settlers kept some of the customs of their original homeland because they were useful to them. (The Nuzi Tablets) When they adopted a monotheistic deity they adapted the Mesopotamian myths to suit their new religion.
We know that the Mesopotamians existed and their creation and flood myths are older than the Genesis versions. If we're going to take archaeology and old texts as proof that deities exist, we'll have to accept that the Mesopotamian deities are the real gods and the God of the Bible is just made up.

(June 7, 2014 at 11:18 am)mickiel Wrote: Why not read about the biblical King Herods castle;
There's plenty of evidence that Herod the Great really existed but the Siege of Masada doesn't prove that Jesus existed.
Quote:The siege of Masada was among the final accords of the Great Jewish Revolt, occurring from 73 to 74 CE on a large hilltop in current-day Israel.



