An unorthodox belief in God.

[mickiel]

A side note, not related to any particular post in this thread, but rather an amalgam thought (if there is such a thing) on the back-and-forth between our new theist and the non-believers:

It's curious to me how little respect our theists have. We do have the rare theists who come here and manage to respect people for the most part. Anyone remember Tackattack? He had the same ole ridiculous belief structure but he usually understood how to respect others while disagreeing with them. He didn't go around spouting off unsubstantiated claims about things he knew nothing about. He didn't go around making ridiculous strawman arguments about evolution or continuously berating people for using expletives. Rayaan is another example of a great theist here who doesn't go around annoying the holy fuck out of people.

What is it about believing in god that makes most believers such holy fucking assholes? They get all their information from their preacher or their youth pastor pal and don't even bother checking on their information before blathering it out like a gullible halfwit. AND they always precede that with how "unique" their particular views on god are and how "unchristian" they feel their position is ... all while they tout the Bible and praise the Genesis creation.

It's just so god damn predictably annoying.

You say you're not a christian, yet you smell like a christian, you talk like a christian, you act like a christian, you believe the same book as a christian, you're uneducated like a christian and you're an an arrogant fucking asshole ... like a christian. Guess what, I see no difference. Accept it or not - I don't care, you're a christian.

Well thank you. May I make an observation I am curious about myself , about the atheist here that I view as a commonality; most of them curse like its a tradition to do here. Their words slice you up like an expert butcher. Its as if cursing is a culture here , or a type of peer pressure; if you don't do it, why then you're not an atheist. Reminds me of accepted arrogance, because its hard to curse without being arrogant about it.

I also notice that a few have the manners to welcome guest, which is rewarding when you are a newcomer.

I also notice that some atheist like to threaten you, if they cannot get their way. Or change your way.

However, unlike you, I am not annoyed. Because I view these as really being human tendency, not atheist tendency.

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I use terms as I understand them. I don't redefine anything. And archaeological evidence of people and places in the bible lend credence to the god of the bible. So we definitely disagree there.

http://www.bible-archaeology.info/bible_...ericho.htm

This analogy has been used before, but I don't remember you addressing it, so I'll pose it to you again. Homer's Iliad and Odyssey contain references to historical events, people, and places. Does this lend any validity to the god claims contained within those texts? Does the fact that Homer sometimes accurately portrayed historical events in his epics mean anything about the existence or nonexistence of Zeus, Hera, Demeter, or Poseidon?

If not, then why is the Bible held to a different standard?

You're comparison is illusion , an attempt to deflect or disarm what I am doing. I am giving real biblical characters and events in our history, and the professional archaeology that confirms it. Greek gods and their mythical places are illusions, no professional has uncovered evidence of them. In judges 7:1 Gideon had a cave, we have that cave now; its no myth and no game; Its simply a real standard;

http://www.gemsinisrael.com/e_article000002707.htm

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The biblical cities of Sodom and Gomorrah have been found as well. Interesting stunning find!

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/200...orrah.aspx

I don't see how statements of facts in the Bible, for example about the existence of cities or the occurrence of events like a big flood, belongs in a thread about belief in God. Are you claiming that including some actual facts adds credibility to those things which are not facts?

How about this: the sun is yellow, and I'm from Canada, therefore I'm the Messiah. Logical, right? I told the truth about the first two things, so the last one must be true as well.

The significance of these professional historical factual finds are that they give us more information about the people of those times, the places and buildings of the times , the laws of those times and the beliefs of those times.

And whether you like it or not, the gods worshipped during those times.

Such as the Mari tablets:

http://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1...458-e-0460