RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 7, 2014 at 9:30 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2014 at 10:07 pm by Creed of Heresy.)
(June 7, 2014 at 7:38 pm)mickiel Wrote: You got to be kidding; life and consciousness and this VAST universe is " pure, random , chaotic chance?" Man, what does atheism do to the human perception , its like it wipes out whole slabs of reality! It is denying our birth right and erasing our true heritage with god; Anyone can see this thing was intended and planned and designed.
goodness.
You're seeing things that aren't there, making a wild jump to conclusions. "This is a huge complex thing; ergo god!" How do ya figure? I mean, your religion basically states the world has existed for a grand total of, what, seven millenia? Yet we have evidence up the wazoo that shows it's billions of years old.
Anyone can believe this was intended and planned and designed; there's a difference between seeing, and believing.
What is "true" and what is "real" are two different things. Very different, in fact.
Let's see if you understand what I mean...
By the way, this vast and complex universe, yet god neglected to tell his "chosen people" about the rest of it? As it was believed, he lived among the clouds...not the stars. Or beyond the stars, for that matter. And if this was all intended, and designed, and planned, then why does it seem like everything's been designed so poorly? The human body alone is a terrific example of that; it breaks down and falls apart and suffers serious performance issues within a very short amount of time (unnoticeable, in fact, in comparison to the age of the universe) by virtue of its very "design."
A universe-creating god turned his attention to this lone micro-speck in the universe, engineered a plot to make all the dust come together to form a planet, set off a constant chain of chemical reactions to induce abiogenesis to create RNA and cellular life which evolved into fish and then split into many different species including dinosaurs who ruled the planet over our mammalian ancestors hundreds of millions of years ago, engineered things from the very beginning to have a meteor slam into the planet so that the dinosaurs all died so that mammals ruled the earth (instead of just engineering things so that they ruled it from the very beginning? What perfect universe-creating god fucks up and has to use the cosmic equivalent of an eraser to correct a mistake??), then had everything laid out so we advanced from more primitive simians and developed our frontal lobe so we could better communicate and make use of our environment...even though the planet tried killing us all along the way...which seems weird given we weren't even consciously intelligent at that time...and then was largely silent throughout most of the early time period when we WERE sapient, but when he DID speak, he spoke only to a group of nomads living in the desert, deciding, arbitrarily, that the rest of humanity just wasn't worth it...
I mean, if you genuinely believe we human beings are that important, then...man...your arrogance...WHOO. It's pretty high up there on the charts. That's one hell of a sense of unwarranted self-importance you've got going on.
We're not that important. We're not the result of a grand cosmic design. We're just the product of random chance. If a couple variables had been flipped, the dominant sapient race could have been giant suction-toed creatures that look like something out of Spore. Just because things happened the way they did doesn't mean something meant for them to happen.
Shit just happens, dude. Sure, we ask questions of "why" all the time but in truth there's no real answers. Everyone has different answers to the why, and none of them match up to each other. All these wildly different conclusions...god sure fucked up when it came to making sure his "chosen people" got the right message, cuz it seems like he came in many avatars and forms for the sole purpose of fucking with his chosen creations.
There's no "why." There is simply "how."