RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 9, 2014 at 2:46 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2014 at 2:47 pm by mickiel.)
(June 9, 2014 at 1:57 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 1:52 pm)mickiel Wrote: First they ask for sources, now its back on me; interesting. I already gave my personal example with " The Dimes." Remember finding 100 dimes on the ground, perfectly balanced on their edges, aligned. That can only be deliberately done. We theist view that deliberance as proof; the order in the universe and in the physical world is deliberate. Intentional. You believe and accept the opposite; to you its luck; unintentional and random.
1. What does the above have to do with either ontological arguments for god's existence or the article you cited.
2. How do you know what I do or don't believe? I can't remember ever telling you anything about that?
Mick, I'm not going to lie, it's coming across that you actually lied about knowing anything about ontology and that, subsequently, everything else you've posted is a lie.
One more shot. Show your working, your research, into your studies on ontology. I don't want a simple post to an article that shows nothing aside the fact you can google ontology. I want your understanding and how your research into ontology has revealed its support for gods existence. You said you've researched it, but you haven't shown us anything that proves that.
I have not lied, Ontology IS the attempt to prove god exist! I have given pages and pages of those attempts; they have been REJECTED! You are rejecting my Ontology. And have the nerve to say I am lying about this. Ontology is does god exist, does he have being. And then to prove that with reason; something reasonable, not religious. And The simple dime example IS REASON! SIMPLE reason! You just cannot see its reason, its ontology.
I'll give another. Life can only produce life. Plain and simple reason! No scientist can produce life in a lab from scratch; using nothing. Its impossible, and yet the scientific theories on how life began, is requesting that we begin with the impossible. Using life as coming from a god of life, is FAR more reasonable.
Now better for you to continue to ignore my reason and call me a lie, than to actually debate my reason, because NONE of you have yet to carry on a single debate against any of my points, just my personage and things about me. A few of you have ASKED me to focus on one issue, but then they revert back to personal attacks when I respond.
This ain't about me.
(June 9, 2014 at 2:38 pm)Losty Wrote: But you do believe in the devil?
Yes. I believe god created the thing too.