(June 6, 2014 at 8:40 am)mickiel Wrote: I did not want to put this in the religious section, because I am not religious. I am not christian, not with any group, but I do believe in god, and will explain and debate why. There are a growing number of believers in God who do not adhere to traditional religions and customs, nor explinations of god. I certainly don't. I have been banned from enough christian websites to know just how much we disagree. There are more views of god, than Christian - atheist views.
Why do I believe in god?
Well this list will be quite extensive, but I will begin with " Consciousness", and please excuse me for capitalizing consciousness. Some here seem to put meaning behind a simple capitalization, when there is none in this writer.
Consciousness, the governor of our behavior. I do not believe that a thing like consciousness can be the result of random evolution; although I believe in evolution, just not 100% of the common definition of the term, I think its a tool of god. Not a tool of magic luck. I think our consciousness was designed to continue to evolve, like many things God designed. And yes, I do figure that design requires a designer, or is evidence of one.
I do not think consciousness could be arrived at from things " lesser than itself", such as unconscious things like rocks, matter and chemicals; no. This fingers a god in my figuration.
How could we arrive at awareness as a result of magical physical unaware things combining slowly over billions of years? Even the flesh of humans and animals, which is another proof of God, how can we arrive at having flesh on bones, and then pop a thing like consciousness into it? This is asking more than facts and faith or belief, its asking us to accept miracles! Oh, all of a sudden individual bones decided to slowly grow into individual parts of the human body, like plants growing from the ground? Then each specific part had a mind of its own and injected itself into other parts and eventually got it right and formed a skeleton? Which then figured out 5 billion years later how to cloak itself in flesh?
And nature was kind enough to reward this thing with a brain?
And then somehow, a trillion years later, it DEVELOPED consciousness? Now I am being comical for sure, but you get the point. In my view, consciousness is " A spirit IN humans", which was put in the body by another conscious spirit; which again points me to a god. And that spirit is what consciousness is, its biblically defined as " The image of god", meaning consciousness. How is something physical, like nature or matter, going to produce a spirit thing like consciousness?
That is like saying that dead things can produce life. Which I think is another proof of god, only consciousness can birth consciousness , only life can produce life; only a human can birth a human; we are not continuous with the idiot hierarchy of speechless apes.
You sound like one of those mislead deists. That's a shame. The one TRUE God is not someone to take litely. You should get your heart right as quickly as you can. The Lord Jesus Christ will discard you as quickly as he does the atheists who deny him.