RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2014 at 9:13 pm by mickiel.)
(June 9, 2014 at 8:39 pm)Luckie Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 7:28 pm)mickiel Wrote: Animals are not conscious, they are instinctly aware.
Really? ? ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp8Yp89aF...ata_player
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/octo...claration/
Elephants cooperate to solve problems. Chimpanzees teach youngsters to make tools. Even octopuses seem to be able to plan. So should we humans really be surprised that “consciousness” probably does not only exist in us.
This privileged state of subjective awareness in fact goes well beyond Homo sapiens, according to the new Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness (pdf), which was signed last month by a group of cognitive neuroscientists, computational neuroscientists, neuroanatomists, neuropharmacologists, neurophysiologists who attended the Francis Crick Memorial Conference on Consciousness in Human and non-Human Animals at Cambridge University in the U.K.
I totally disagree with ever last one of those who signed that declaration, they are an embarrassment to realist; elephants, chimps and octo's are not conscious beings. Their animals, beasts; nothing more.
(June 9, 2014 at 9:09 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 7:28 pm)mickiel Wrote: Animals are not conscious, they are instinctly aware.
That's an antiquated Cartesian view. Modern science disagrees with you.
I've pointed this out multiple times in this thread, which you have promptly ignored. Perhaps a video would help:
In September of 2012, a panel of leading Neuroscientists convened in Cambridge to announce scientific consensus that non-human animals are indeed conscious:
The Psychology Today article outlining the consensus:
http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal...ous-beings
I totally disagree with this shameful deception of professionals who signed that, they KNOW animals are not conscious.