(June 9, 2014 at 1:53 am)Esquilax Wrote:-thou doth protest too much-(June 8, 2014 at 10:46 pm)snowtracks Wrote: it goes like this: when there is a high level of coincidences that makes earth life suitable, those that are committed to the presupposition of no-design proceed to make some very metaphysical speculation. you even have a post in cybspace that embraces panspermia. anyone seen any ufo's lately? if you have, please keep it to yourself.
Ah, I see: being unable to respond to the very real accusation of hypocrisy leveled against you, you instead decide to go on the attack, just as ineffectively as you've argued anything else.![]()
Again, coincidences aren't a problem for a naturalistic world because coincidences happen, they're possible. "This thing is improbable!" is not an argument against the thing happening, nor is it evidence for some magical other claim; you need evidence for your claim, not just negative evidence against a different claim. No matter how many things you bring up that disprove what I think- you haven't done this at all, but let's pretend- it won't confirm what you think.
And I don't have a "presupposition" of naturalism, that's just a childish canard made to try to drag us all down to you level; I believe in naturalistic sources for things because thus far nature is the only thing we have evidence for. That's not a presupposition, that's following the available evidence where it leads, and when your sole argument is "oh, it's improbable!" then you're not exactly giving us reason to do otherwise.
As to panspermia, I accept it as a possibility, I don't "embrace" it, you cretin. Additionally, panspermia deals with extraterrestrial sources, not just "ufos" so now you're stuck with a choice: either you're deliberately strawmanning me here, or you decided to open your mouth without knowing what you were talking about.
Asshole, or idiot, Snowy? You pick.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.