(June 9, 2014 at 1:53 am)Esquilax Wrote:-thou doth protest too much-(June 8, 2014 at 10:46 pm)snowtracks Wrote: it goes like this: when there is a high level of coincidences that makes earth life suitable, those that are committed to the presupposition of no-design proceed to make some very metaphysical speculation. you even have a post in cybspace that embraces panspermia. anyone seen any ufo's lately? if you have, please keep it to yourself.
Ah, I see: being unable to respond to the very real accusation of hypocrisy leveled against you, you instead decide to go on the attack, just as ineffectively as you've argued anything else.
Again, coincidences aren't a problem for a naturalistic world because coincidences happen, they're possible. "This thing is improbable!" is not an argument against the thing happening, nor is it evidence for some magical other claim; you need evidence for your claim, not just negative evidence against a different claim. No matter how many things you bring up that disprove what I think- you haven't done this at all, but let's pretend- it won't confirm what you think.
And I don't have a "presupposition" of naturalism, that's just a childish canard made to try to drag us all down to you level; I believe in naturalistic sources for things because thus far nature is the only thing we have evidence for. That's not a presupposition, that's following the available evidence where it leads, and when your sole argument is "oh, it's improbable!" then you're not exactly giving us reason to do otherwise.
As to panspermia, I accept it as a possibility, I don't "embrace" it, you cretin. Additionally, panspermia deals with extraterrestrial sources, not just "ufos" so now you're stuck with a choice: either you're deliberately strawmanning me here, or you decided to open your mouth without knowing what you were talking about.
Asshole, or idiot, Snowy? You pick.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.